NDS

It just goes to show why a home dem is so important. Different systems, different equipment supports, different rooms, different ears, no wonder the same piece of kit sounds different.

I do find it strange however that you found the SL I/C sounded duller than the HiLine. I found the complete opposite.

Super lumina was a material upgrade for me over the hi line on my NDS - bloody addictive too,  speaker cable came shortly after and just pre to power amp to go!

I just got my 555dr’d and serviced and it now sounds fantastic, can’t imagine how good the ND555 sounds....

I could sell my LP12 to fund the ND555 but despite the faff there is something in the sound/experience of vinyl that I’m not ready to give up just yet.

in the meantime the NDS is sounding might fine.

Gary 

Nigel, I remember the first time I heard the hiline. My thoughts were that this needs to be very special to warrant spending hundreds of pounds on an interconnect. When I actually heard it I was stunned. I had tried many interconnects and had found the one that most suited. The hiline was so much better that I bough one immediately. It was like removing a bottleneck from my system, I had never heard my music/system sound so “right”.

When I first heard about the super lumina I had hoped for a repeat of what happened with the hiline. Certain aspects of it I recall sounding better but on the whole I much preferred the presentation of the hiline. 

I switched from Hiline to Superlumina on CDS3. Not even close - Superlumina trounced it.

A former work colleague went for a demo the other week of a NDX2/SN2.  While he was there they wired up a Rega RP6 which he said just killed the NDX2.  It’s the way it is!

Yeah, no surprises here. Rega is super simple to set up.

Not sure if you've got some networking related issues going on - I had a bunch of issues that once resolved led to a huge improvement in engagement - as in 0 engagement and emotional connection to music to a extremely engaging.

To try to pop onto the streaming section of the forum. 

Remove any ferrites from the network cable for a start. When i moved my core upstairs the sound from my ND555 took a nosedive until I removed the ferrite from the network cable between wall socket and switch. it was there from when the only device  in the living room on the network was the smart telly it came with, along with the advice to place it there, I'd stopped seeing it by the time I wanrted to send music down that cable.

When I had my NDS I tried it with the Hi Line and did not like it one bit .......... I then tried a dealers SH Super lumina interconnect pre run in  - wow what a difference. Back came the richness and texture with wonderful delicacy - and great bass. I found the NDS very demanding - regarding the cable. I suggest you borrow one from a dealer. Also check your earth switch. Finally - the ethernet cable feeding the NDS has an effect..... good luck keep us posted. The NDS as mentioned earlier is very demanding.........its a great source.

I noticed super lumina speaker cables have what looks like ferrite blocks on one end......do we know why Naim deem this necessary? Not used on the interconnects?

nigelb posted:

It just goes to show why a home dem is so important. Different systems, different equipment supports, different rooms, different ears, no wonder the same piece of kit sounds different.

I do find it strange however that you found the SL I/C sounded duller than the HiLine. I found the complete opposite.

Same here HiLine to S/L was a massive uplift I was using a NDX with XPSdr at the time.

Gazza posted:

I noticed super lumina speaker cables have what looks like ferrite blocks on one end......do we know why Naim deem this necessary? Not used on the interconnects?

The block at the amp end of the cable contains a resistor that connects the two screens together. The block at the speaker end is empty. 

Neither are ferrite - they are some sort of alloy. 

No ferrites in the boxes, just this. 

ChrisSU posted:

No ferrites in the boxes, just this. 

Interesting. I wonder what that does?

I suspect it’s a resistive path to reduce the effect of any induced currents in the shield loops..

Thanks guys.....as usual with Naim, a bit different.

Simon-in-Suffolk posted:

I suspect it’s a resistive path to reduce the effect of any induced currents in the shield loops..

As the shields are floating, that makes sense.  Assuming my laptops colour resolution is OK - red blue yellow is 260k & silver is 10%

Guys,

Can we do a sanity check here.  No doubt changing to a SL will adapt the sound the OP is achieving from his NDS but the tonearm wire on his Rega will I imagine be the standard Rega issue - no doubt carefully selected and set up.  

So I repeat what he is recognising is the difference in presentation between vinyl and digital.  I’m not saying the former is Bette simply a matter of preference. 

Regards,

Lindsay

Mike-B posted:

Simon-in-Suffolk posted:

I suspect it’s a resistive path to reduce the effect of any induced currents in the shield loops..

As the shields are floating, that makes sense.  Assuming my laptops colour resolution is OK - red blue yellow is 260k & silver is 10%

And there's me hoping you guys were going to tell me it was some hi-tech fairy dust. Damn! I'm still hoping for some exotic explanation as to why the SL cables sound so magical.