552

just picked up new552 and got nearly fun refund on my 252/super cap 

paid 17000 for 552 less my 252/supercap so £8000 is what I paid

left it running since lunchtime and at 6pm am just sitting down to have a listen

first very quick impressions top end is so much detail mid and bottom end gel in so well together with ND555

 knowing Naim black boxes I expect it will turn out  to be a great leap in SQ once it has a few weeks of 24/7 playing behind it ( I will not be going anywhere near my dealer to dem the 500 power amp well not until next year)

tonycurran1 ND555 with 2 PS555 300 DR  552DR

unity core

B&W 802 D3 

chord reference signature speaker cable

5x powercords

powe line

fraime lite

Hiline

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Congrats Tony.  The 552 was the all-time best  bit of Naim kit I ever bought.  At the time, I too had a NAP300 but later changed that to a NAP500.

So far, so good... but don't set your sights on the NAP500 too soon.  Like you I was running B&W speakers and had been for years... but all that changed...

It changed when I heard ATC active speakers (SCM 100 ASL).  Not to be too flippant about it, out went the B&W's and  the NAP500 and in came the ATC active speakers. I emphasise active because, IMHO, the passive versions weren't as good as the B&W's (both with the NAP500).  However, what those guys (& girls?) at ATC do with their built-in amplification is nothing short of amazing.

So, as I say, before rushing out to buy your NAP500, treat yourself to a listen to these ATC 100's  (or 150's).  They may not be for you, but I'd be surprised if they didn't get on your (very) short list.  And, just as your 552 came in at a very reasonable price, chopping in your B&W803's plus your NAP300 will shave a hefty lump off the £16,700 price of the ATC's.

rjstaines posted:

It changed when I heard ATC active speakers (SCM 100 ASL).  Not to be too flippant about it, out went the B&W's and  the NAP500 and in came the ATC active speakers. I emphasise active because, IMHO, the passive versions weren't as good as the B&W's (both with the NAP500).  However, what those guys (& girls?) at ATC do with their built-in amplification is nothing short of amazing.

So, as I say, before rushing out to buy your NAP500, treat yourself to a listen to these ATC 100's  (or 150's).  They may not be for you, but I'd be surprised if they didn't get on your (very) short list.  And, just as your 552 came in at a very reasonable price, chopping in your B&W803's plus your NAP300 will shave a hefty lump off the £16,700 price of the ATC's.

Never even considered active speakers.  Next year was planning on upgrading to  555 from nds and to 500dr from 300dr.  Maybe I will consider the ATC’s.  Just upgraded to 552, worth every cent  

 

 

Congratulations....that 552 will take about a month to start to really settle in .... and about 3 months for full performance. Your system will be epic. You just need a nap500 to finish it off...ha ha....It never ends....then an S1 etc. That's enough of that you have a marvellous system sit back and enjoy!!!!

Tony - nice move - I am jealous and inspired in equal measure! For me a full 500/555/552 set up is too big a jump in one go from the 272/250DR but, RJS' experience may be the key.

RJS - At this stage, do you feel that your ATC active set up optimises the capabilities of the 552? If you started again tomorrow, would you still opt for the 552 as your pre-amp?

Shropshire Hills posted:

Tony - sounds like you have a very helpful and supportive dealer there - can you give any hints on their location? Thanks

Yes Adam or Roger at Nintronics Welwyn Garden City herts

they have a Naim evening coming up I will post the details when I get them.

Hi thanks for all your replies

I am not going to buy a 500 amp

i feel with the ND555 the 552 is sorting out the signal from it and the 300DR is not struggling to push in through to the B&W 803

i know the 500 would change the sound for the better maybe a different tone and give better control of the speakers but then so would the statement 

i am going to sit back and enjoy the system over the next 6 months or so and then maybe consider replacing my 6 tier fraim lite for the fraim I must admit I struggled to work out the price of the fraim to hold 8 black boxes

if any member can work that out for me that would be great.

tonycurran1 posted:

Hi thanks for all your replies

I am not going to buy a 500 amp

i feel with the ND555 the 552 is sorting out the signal from it and the 300DR is not struggling to push in through to the B&W 803

i know the 500 would change the sound for the better maybe a different tone and give better control of the speakers but then so would the statement 

i am going to sit back and enjoy the system over the next 6 months or so and then maybe consider replacing my 6 tier fraim lite for the fraim I must admit I struggled to work out the price of the fraim to hold 8 black boxes

if any member can work that out for me that would be great.

You would be better off with two stacks, brain on left, brawn on right. So you need two base units and six shelves. You can work out the price from that. It just depends what height shelves you want, standard or medium.

Clive B posted:
tonycurran1 posted:

Hi thanks for all your replies

I am not going to buy a 500 amp

i feel with the ND555 the 552 is sorting out the signal from it and the 300DR is not struggling to push in through to the B&W 803

i know the 500 would change the sound for the better maybe a different tone and give better control of the speakers but then so would the statement 

i am going to sit back and enjoy the system over the next 6 months or so and then maybe consider replacing my 6 tier fraim lite for the fraim I must admit I struggled to work out the price of the fraim to hold 8 black boxes

if any member can work that out for me that would be great.

You would be better off with two stacks, brain on left, brawn on right. So you need two base units and six shelves. You can work out the price from that. It just depends what height shelves you want, standard or medium.

When you purchase the fraim stand be sure and buy the size to fit the 500dr amp you are not going to buy!

One hell of an amp that little NAP110.  It doesn't have as much heft or authority low down as the bigger amps, but boy is it just so musical!  There were times when I would  think I could be quite happy with just the little NAP110 and maybe the best of my shoe box pre-amps. Of course with a NAC552 its sang its heart out. 

Just seen this thread, I am sure you will enjoy your new 552.. I bought mine 8 months ago and love it. I have my headend on the top shelf of a Fraim and for me it sounds good there... the 552PS is less fussy seemingly. The nice thing with the 552 it seems to make any Naim amp connected truly sing (edit: indeed as Richard has just suggested)... as well as making most sources sound great and interesting. allowing the character of your different sources to come through... have fun... for me the 552 is the NAC for the true enthusiast 

congratulations... I just heard the Chord Signature speaker cables, I'm sorry to say this, but your system needs a Superlumina Speaker cables, it's much better.....

and when the credit card bill is digested, of course the Superlumina DIN DIN is much better than the Hi-line...

analogmusic posted:

congratulations... I just heard the Chord Signature speaker cables, I'm sorry to say this, but your system needs a Superlumina Speaker cables, it's much better.....

and when the credit card bill is digested, of course the Superlumina DIN DIN is much better than the Hi-line...

I really like the Chord signature reference speaker cable.

Richieroo posted:

Congratulations....that 552 will take about a month to start to really settle in .... and about 3 months for full performance. Your system will be epic. You just need a nap500 to finish it off...ha ha....It never ends....then an S1 etc. That's enough of that you have a marvellous system sit back and enjoy!!!!

It’s about 10 years since I got the 552, but my memory is that it kept improving for maybe a year, more than 3 months anyway. Probably the most significant ‘affordable’ Naim product until ND555.

tonycurran1 posted:

Just bought 2 DSD music downloads from HD tracks but they don’t show up on my Naim app?

Quick thoughts off the top of my head, based on what is now rather dim recollection.

Can the server render/play DSD?
Can it do so at the sample rate of the files you have bought?
Have you tried tagging them or retagging them? Sometimes I have to strip all tags out and do them again - usually a Qobuz foible but not something that pops up all the time. 

dBpoweramp has an add on codec for tagging DSD. Asset now has DSD and DFF compatibility. Minimserver has had it for years.

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