552/NAP500/nSats

Overkill? Unbalanced? Perhaps...

But, while waiting for a replacement tweeter for my SL2s from Naim i am using a pair of nSats on wall brackets. These little beauties punch well above their weight! and have this explosive percussion characteristic that can be frightening but very engaging at the same time. Vocals have this utterly beguiling characteristic.

Of course, they lack the 'ultimate' bass -- but what is there is very tuneful and well timed.  And in any case, not sure more bass in my office would work. Bass from active SL2s is about the limit i reckon.

My daughter made a worrying comment when she listened to them over the weekend. "Not a million miles between these nSats and my SL2s" !!! Wot!! Perhaps the tweeter has been deteriorating over time and the nSats is making this obvious? Whatever...

Normal service (active SL2s) will be resumed when i have got the errant tweeter and other issues, sorted. Hopefully soon.

enjoy

ken

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Polarbear posted:

I remember hearing a 552/200/ Nsats combination and really enjoying it Ken, I can imagine with a 500 its even better!

i ran 552/250/nSats, uh, about 10 years ago -- the nSats were on their floor stands then. and i was astonished how good they sounded then.

but the 500 seems to be  taking them a musical step further. Seems they take on a with "wild abandon" characteristic -- as if the musicians were enjoying themselves so much they didn't have a care in the world...  I guess you can almost say the SL2s bring a bit of "order" and "discipline" to the proceedings ???...  Hmmm...

enjoy

ken

That reminds me that it'll soon be time to retrieve my poor N-Sats from a long hibernation in the loft for a second system I've been planning. No chance of them seeing a 500, but this makes me wonder just how much power they really need to make them sing - I was thinking more of an Atom!

ChrisSU posted:

That reminds me that it'll soon be time to retrieve my poor N-Sats from a long hibernation in the loft for a second system I've been planning. No chance of them seeing a 500, but this makes me wonder just how much power they really need to make them sing - I was thinking more of an Atom!

NAP S1 !!! Kidding of course! (though this ridiculous suggestion arouses my curiosity ... :-) )

The NAP500 (DR) seems to bring something special out of them -- but i know for sure that they still work extremely well even with lower Naim amplification.

enjoy

ken

Simon-in-Suffolk posted:

You say that, I enjoyed the NAPS1 driving a pair of Neat IOTA Alpha speakers and a pair of PMC twenty5.21 speakers... the Neats really sounded rather special especially in the upper mids and treble.

lucky you Simon -- i haven't heard the NAP S1 before -- i sense it would simply be 'naughty' to drive nSats with such a beast but hey -- who knows? i'd have said that about NAP500 before i tried it...

enjoy

ken

I heard the Neat Iota Alpha speakers earlier this year & was really taken back on what such a small box was capable of.  The ribbon treble unit was very smooth & impressively impressive with a clarity & instrument positioning I had not heard before,  Mid down to bass was also outstanding, dynamic & realistic all in spades.  Soundstage - considering such a little box - was massive,  it projected well higher than its knee high box,  they seemed to be six foot tall.  They are on my short list of speakers to consider for a future room change.   The only downside (my OCD) is in the detail in the finish,  I've never been that impressed with Neat.    

good point Stuart -- in fact a hifi friend made the same point in email communication today.

As it happens -- i still have to secure the studs on the wall brackets to the wall -- so i expect that there is still some additional performance to come when i do this. 

enjoy

ken

I'm presently waiting for a pair of nSats to arrive from southern Ontario. They should be here on Sept. 26, and after reading a lot of threads on the little guys I can hardly wait. I'm going to be using them with an LP12/52/250/Fraim/Rel S3 setup in a near field arrangement. I am using es-14s right now, and it should be interesting to compare the two presentations. I really love the Epos, but a nice deal came up on the nSats and I couldn't resist. Should be interesting...

BB 

I use two pair of Sats at the moment. The former has been bought from me new in 2010 and served me up  up to the SL2 arrival at end of 2013.  They are now residing into this large basement room along my winning Nait XS  ( a DVD5 will join these soon)  i confess this is probably one of the systems i like more. Working with so much space around, they have never sounded so good.

I also tryed UnitLite here, (now into the other room) with equally good result. They have a freshness, a clarity, speed a ridicolous  sense of scale (in this context) relly really hard to beat.

 

 

The other pair into the other room, is a recent acquisition from our fellow member Max B. driven by UnitiLite

Regards

Roberto

Monster posted:

I'm presently waiting for a pair of nSats to arrive from southern Ontario. They should be here on Sept. 26, and after reading a lot of threads on the little guys I can hardly wait. I'm going to be using them with an LP12/52/250/Fraim/Rel S3 setup in a near field arrangement. I am using es-14s right now, and it should be interesting to compare the two presentations. I really love the Epos, but a nice deal came up on the nSats and I couldn't resist. Should be interesting...

BB 

I almost bought those as a back-up pair...ended up getting a nice, preloved NAP200 instead.

I run nSats with 552/300DR/NDS/555PSDR/LP12/Ekos/TKR etc.  No choice really, it's a small room with only one place where the speakers could go, and SWMBO has coopted the lounge for her usual diet of reality TV and soaps (sigh).  Sounds absolutely superb.  Enjoy them!   Just waiting for the TKR to reach the end of its lifespan then I'll consider the upgrade to Ekos SE and a new cartridge.

ChrisSU posted:

"but this makes me wonder just how much power they really need to make them sing - I was thinking more of an Atom!"

I have the urge to upgrade my 172/200 to a 272/250 on my main system and shunt the 172/200 into the study with my n-Sats. Currently using a so-so Harmon Kardon receiver, even this works. But must admit the idea of an Atom appeals for the aesthetics. Will be trying an Atom soon. 

Michael Mccullough posted:
Monster posted:

I'm presently waiting for a pair of nSats to arrive from southern Ontario. They should be here on Sept. 26, and after reading a lot of threads on the little guys I can hardly wait. I'm going to be using them with an LP12/52/250/Fraim/Rel S3 setup in a near field arrangement. I am using es-14s right now, and it should be interesting to compare the two presentations. I really love the Epos, but a nice deal came up on the nSats and I couldn't resist. Should be interesting...

BB 

I almost bought those as a back-up pair...ended up getting a nice, preloved NAP200 instead.

Those nSats are going to have some very large shoes to fill. Just spent a few hours with some great herb and a little single malt, listening to the es-14s. Played Folk Singer, Me and Mr Johnson, some Duke Ellington and Ray Brown, Headhunters, Slowhand  and Hotel California, and it all sounded incredible. The Epos really have a tremendous sense of involvement about them. It's going to be hard for the nSats to be the equal of the Epos regarding  the involvement factor IMHO, but we shall see. I know a lot of folks really love the nSats, so the comparison should be interesting. It beats sitting around flipping shit with a stick...

BB 

500 series for a n-Sat, wondering how far the sound can go for the little speaker. For me sound quality always matter of price but sound taste doesn't matter. For smaller speaker has its limitation which cannot compare with the floor standing especially has the good front end.

I have my system set up to use the nSub for those few recordings where I think it offers some benefit.  I do this by switching the nSub on when I want to use it.  Most recordings derive little or no benefit from adding the nSub, but there are some which benefit.   Took me a lot of trial and error to get it set up to my satisfaction.  The nSats do go down to 60Hz which ain't bad for such a small speaker.

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