A fond farewell to 200 - hello 300

some 16 years ago I purchased my first couple of NAIM CD5 & 200 from a highly repected dealer in Leicester

changed the system around a lot over the years but the 200 remained - moved from CD5 to CDX2/XPS then downgraded to Unti but still with 200

I can't praise my dealer highly enough for the advise - guidence (and invoices!) over the years they say NAIM is a journey, well to use that metaphor " whilst the journey may not be over I am going to sit on a bench for a while and admire the view"  - LP12, NDX, 282, HCDR, FRAIM and in a couple of weeks 300!

 

Regards

 

Antony

Original Post

That is the great thing with Naim gear. Because the trade in/resale values are so strong and because the reliability of the kit is so good, you can upgrade and even downgrade without losing too much money. Of course downgrading it is possible to come away with money in your pocket! Better still is taking advantage of ex-demo stock and pre loved kit from dealers with the back up service that allows. Most of my system has been built with pre loved or ex-demo gear and I have upgraded with the benefit of trade in allowances. It is all good.

BTW, great system Antony. I have owned the very same system but still have the delights of a 300 to experience, maybe sometime in the future. Right now, I am very happy where I am.

wenger2015 posted:

I'm sure you will be delighted with you new acquisition went it arrives.

Just interested to know,  if you were able to have a home dem of the 300 or have you just decided to go for it?

after speaking to my dealer (who i know well and moreover trust) choice was mine either ex demo 250DR or SH 300

went for the later, cost was slightly higher and will look to get DR upgrade at some point in future,

it also fits into my plans and the FRAIM!

Hi Antony , 

very happy for you, the recipe for your success is having had a very knowledgeable support, from a valuable dealer (I don't know him and no connection with) but I understand his 'modus operandi' throughly . You didn't fall into that 272 trap, you did the right source move(you cn always improve it), and anything else spot-on. Enjoy!! 

I am running a 282 into a 200 with Dynaudio Focus 160s.  I know that my next upgrade will be the 200, but I am a bit worried about changing the balance of the system which just sounds right at the moment.  In theory the 250 or 300 should be a better match with the 282 but I could be chasing nirvana when my best system is already here.

Antonio1 posted:

Hi Antony , 

very happy for you, the recipe for your success is having had a very knowledgeable support, from a valuable dealer (I don't know him and no connection with) but I understand his 'modus operandi' throughly . You didn't fall into that 272 trap, you did the right source move(you cn always improve it), and anything else spot-on. Enjoy!! 

slightly harsh about 272 trap...? It isn't as bad as you seem to think.....?

NJB posted:

I am running a 282 into a 200 with Dynaudio Focus 160s.  I know that my next upgrade will be the 200, but I am a bit worried about changing the balance of the system which just sounds right at the moment.  In theory the 250 or 300 should be a better match with the 282 but I could be chasing nirvana when my best system is already here.

Really liked the 282/200 combo,  I think the 200 punches above it's weight 

300 has been running for couple of hours now and really coming on song, more depth and detaIl on the bass line, mid range is really dynamic already pleased with move to 300 

plan is to get it DR in near future, but at the moment more than a little foot taping going on

those boys in Leicester have  got it right again! 

 

 

 

I reckon the 300 is a great amp.  I changed mine for a 500, but only because I suspected my nbl's imposed a heavy loading and required a bigger kick up the jacksie to perform at their best than I would ideally have liked.  With an easier going pair of speakers, I would have been more than happy sticking with the 300 which has a wonderful sound quality.  Hope the OP gets many years of enjoyment from their new 300.

Peter

Richieroo posted:

Hi you don't say old your 300 is .... the dr upgrade and service will make a very big difference ..... this is a move you will never regret.

Richieroo

7 years old, planning to DR it later this year

so far delighted with upgrade from 200 - the presenation of the of the music is very much like the 200 but from an older slibling who is older and much wiser, well worth the upgrade

Thanks for the information. The B&W Nautilus 805 are nice speakers. I have owned them briefly more than 10 years ago (pre-Naim days). They do respond well with different amps. Some of the amps I have used on the N805 are the Krell KAV-300i, YBA Integre DT and Plinius separates.

Enjoy the newly acquired NAP 300. I'm sure the system sounds special.

analogmusic posted:

that's a nice speaker. I used to own an 805S, and I miss it quite a bit.

Too bad the 80d3 is now so expensive.

I have read about the 805S being an improvement over the N805, an overall better speaker. Before I got into the Harbeth I did look at the 805S but eventually went the other direction. Yes, the current Diamond series are very costly.

 

ryder. posted:
analogmusic posted:

that's a nice speaker. I used to own an 805S, and I miss it quite a bit.

Too bad the 80d3 is now so expensive.

I have read about the 805S being an improvement over the N805, an overall better speaker. Before I got into the Harbeth I did look at the 805S but eventually went the other direction. Yes, the current Diamond series are very costly.

 

got them SH from a local dealer, really pleased with them - the do need to be driven

music room is quiet small so need a bookshelf rather than floor stand speaker, just posted some pictures on System photos

antony d posted:

got them SH from a local dealer, really pleased with them - the do need to be driven

music room is quiet small so need a bookshelf rather than floor stand speaker, just posted some pictures on System photos

Saw the photos in the System thread. Nice room. The room certainly does not need larger speakers. The size of the N805 fits the room nicely.

Yes, the 805s do benefit from good power. They do sound livelier with better bass punch and dynamics with a larger amp.

The 282-300 was my first Naim pre/power set up which I ran for 7 years. They drove B&W 803S. Looking back this would have been a good place to stop. Very enjoyable and full of energy. This was long before anyone said "DR" so I can't comment on how this may improve things. With your NDX and LP12 your have electronics that will let these sources shine.

Dave

 

analogmusic posted:

Hi Bodger,

which PSU with the 282?

single HCDR - not minded at the moment to add another - might look at SC in future and move the HCDR to power Stageline

love the 282 - moved from 202  couple of years ago,  really added detail to system

the 300 is really come on song now - it's like the 200 older sibling who has been to Uni and got a first, when I get it DR'd 300 it should get its it's PhD

analogmusic posted:

Hi Bodger,

which PSU with the 282?

Sorry I missed your question. I had a hicap with that set up. Bought is all in bulk so could not afford to go higher at the time. I later added a Supercap but much much later which eventually went on the 252 replacement. Hicap was switched to the stageline at that time.

antony d posted:

some 16 years ago I purchased my first couple of NAIM CD5 & 200 from a highly repected dealer in Leicester

 

 

I live in Leicester, sadly there are no longer any HiFi retailers in the city? There is a dealer outside of the city called Cymbiosis, I guess that is who you mean? They have moved to a place Rearsby, which is a few miles outside of Leicester. Please see there website for further details, if you travel to Leicester you will be disappointed, as i am living here. https://www.cymbiosis.com/contact/#findus

DJH yes correct Cymbiosis, I have always used them - brillant both technical & customer service - Peter & LP12' enough said

its a round trip for me of about 2 hours,  last time I was there spent about 4 hours with Phil & Wayne

couple of other greats out of Leicester - Tigers for rugby and Everards Beer! both make me happy

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