Chord Hugo TT Interconnects

Hi Guys,

Looking for a bit of advise please (excuse my ignorance) but I've just brought a second hand Chord Hugo TT and waiting for delivery but I want to order some leads so I can get up and running asap, will the standard leads that come with the TT allow me to connect my Naim CD5 xs upto the TT (BNC to BNC digital coax) and then a set of leads RCA to RCA to connect TT to my 152xs pre-amp.

1) Am I correct in thinking I need a BNC to BNC digital coax lead and a set of RCA to RCA??

2) If the leads provided are not the above will the standard supplied leads let me get connected?

3) What sensible priced leads would you recommend, max £200.00 per set

kind regards

Stimmy

My system comprises of 152/155xs, cd5xs, flatcap 2x, minuet speakers and nac a5 cables

Original Post

I had very good results between a Core and and both Rega and 2Qute DACs with a Belden 4794R from Blue Jeans cables for < £40 deliverd tax paid to the UK, It livened up the Rega and the the Chord was able to convey some emotion compared to the Chord digital cables up to £200.

 

Stimmy, yes, you want a BNC-BNC 75ohm Coaxial digital interconnect, and an RCA-DIN interconnect to go from the Hugo TT to your Naim pre-amp.  You should also disconnect the i/c between the CD5xs and pre-amp if you are choosing to use the CD player's digital output. 

You can use both RCA >>RCA and RCA >>5 Pin Din  to connect the Chord to your Nac 152XS. I would go with either a used  Naim Grey, Lavender or Black or an entry level Chord Co. a Chrysalis, Crimson, Cobra or the Shawline which is around £200 new for RCA or RCA - Din.                                                                                               

Did I read somewhere that Chord Chrysalis was the same cable that Naim used for their lavendar and Naim bought up all the stock when it went out of production? I have Chrysalis RCA to RCA and a Chord Crimson RCA to DIN and the Chrysalis beats the Crimson between my NAD 4020A and 552 despite the DIN plug on the latter. If I right in the above and you can't source a Hiline, a Lavendar RCA to DIN ordered from Naim should do nicely if it hasn't been discontinued, it sems to have vanished from the web site.

Richard Dane posted:

Whatever you do, I would certainly try to ensure you go RCA-DIN with the interconnect - it makes a difference.

Richard 

Would an rca to din into SN2 be better for a Philips CD 960 ? I use Kimber hero wbt rca-rca presently. 

Stimmy - sorry but I hope this question will be relevant for you maybe not now but in future. 

Regards 

mpw posted:
Richard Dane posted:

Whatever you do, I would certainly try to ensure you go RCA-DIN with the interconnect - it makes a difference.

Richard 

Would an rca to din into SN2 be better for a Philips CD 960 ? I use Kimber hero wbt rca-rca presently. 

Stimmy - sorry but I hope this question will be relevant for you maybe not now but in future. 

Regards 

All else being equal, into a Naim pre-amp, I would always choose DIN over RCA phono because it tends to sound better, even when using RCA Phonos at the source end.

Hi Richard, I'm confused (doesn't take a lot I know), I'm assuming that the RCA's come out from the Hugo TT and connects to the 152xs via 5 pin din but from memory when I used a flatcap to power the A+B sockets I used din socket snaic leads but i'm not sure whether these were 4 or 5 pin, so my concern was by powering the 152xs via a flatcap it might have used up available din sockets, then I used a second flatcap to power the CD5xs - as you can see I struggle with all this connectivity so please bear with me - it's complicated stuff!!

regards

Stimmy 

Stimmy, 180 degree DIN5s are inputs or input/outputs for connecting sources.  240 degree DINs (either DIN4 or DIN5) are for connecting 24V DC power and/or pre-amp signal. 

If we look at the NAC-152xs from behind, we can see that on the left hand side are all the inputs on either RCA Phono or DIN5.  The only odd one is on the far right of the left hand bank of sockets, the powered AUX2 input which is on a 240 degree DIN5 as it carries both 24v DC power as well as taking in signal, which is handy for a Naim phono stage.  On the right hand side are all the others sockets - mainly for connecting to a power amp or connecting up power supply options.  There's a also a sub out and a line out on RCA phonos.

Thanks Richard, that helps explain things, I always get confused with the power side of things especially when some connections need blocking off!

I assume that it won't make any difference which 5 pin din I use (cd in, tuner in, hdd in or av in) so long as I select that one on the front of the panel

Sorry for being so useless!!

regards

Stimmy 

No problem Stimmy, I still remember the days when was trying to get my head around DIN sockets and connections.

You can  use any of the DIN inputs, just so long as it's not already taken up by something else on RCA phono.  On the AV input be sure that Unity Gain is not engaged (Unity Gain bypasses the volume control).

Richard

one last question..

 

My Philips CD960 has a 2 pin power cord... and i see the Naim SN2 DIN input is a 5 pin

like this..

 

ch1

ch2

-ve

nc

nc

Since my CDP does not have the 3rd pin - Earth - will the RCA to DIN experiment be a likely success ? 

what does nc stand for ?

since i dont have a earth from my CDP - to what shall the connection of -ve go to ?

regards

thank you

Whilst my Chord Chrysalis RCA - Din cables were getting fixed back when I had the option of both Din and RCA on my 282 I used some RCA-RCA Linn silver cables I had and found adding the mayware improved things perhaps there was a problem with the Linn cables but I found the RCA inputs on my 282 with them to add a hum that the din adapter removed.

Of course if you are buying new or even used cables then buy properly terminated cables but if you are incorporating an existing cable then try both ways and trust your own ears with and without the din adapter they only cost a few pounds.

Thanks Bob the builder, I’ve had a look on eBay and struggling to find something that takes my fancy, I might wait for a while but because I mainly use headphones at the moment I might just buy a Bnc to Bnc digital coax, that way I assume I can still listen just via flatcap, CD player, tt & headphones only for now then connect to my amp at a later date

regards

stimmy

stimmy posted:

Hi Guys,

Looking for a bit of advise please (excuse my ignorance) but I've just brought a second hand Chord Hugo TT and waiting for delivery but I want to order some leads so I can get up and running asap, will the standard leads that come with the TT allow me to connect my Naim CD5 xs upto the TT (BNC to BNC digital coax) and then a set of leads RCA to RCA to connect TT to my 152xs pre-amp.

1) Am I correct in thinking I need a BNC to BNC digital coax lead and a set of RCA to RCA??

2) If the leads provided are not the above will the standard supplied leads let me get connected?

3) What sensible priced leads would you recommend, max £200.00 per set

kind regards

Stimmy

I've tried rca/din Flashback UK cables from my ordinary Hugo to 152xs with good results

They do some good digital cables too

Really way below budget, perhaps there's better out there, afterall a very expensive Hugo TT deserve quality

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