Chord launches new M Scaler for Hugo TT

Ok so i have just read Andrew Everards NDX2 review in this months HFNRR, and if im honest i read it as though he is not 100% enamoured with it. Now this is Andrew who won’t say a bad word on a Naim product IMHO.

upshot is you need a 555dr to get it on song and then its a toss up between this and an NDS. Ok so nothing really bad here but when you consider a number of guys on here moved from NDS to Hugo, well where does that leave the ND555 in comparison to something like Dave + MScaler.

i know what my opinion would be, whats yours.

I will demo all the new streamers inc the new nd5 with Dave and the blue 2 upscaler. If I like the latter I will just buy the nd5 and a Dave and wait for the mscaler. Despite knowing all about the Chord products , people are trying, buying and loving the ND555. Perhaps they feel they get more of the Naim presentation of music and something different with Chord?

Gazza posted:

I will demo all the new streamers inc the new nd5 with Dave and the blue 2 upscaler. If I like the latter I will just buy the nd5 and a Dave and wait for the mscaler. Despite knowing all about the Chord products , people are trying, buying and loving the ND555. Perhaps they feel they get more of the Naim presentation of music and something different with Chord?

It sounds as if you have an open mind. I suspect in at least some cases  others simply haven’t heard Dave, whether from lack of opportunity, commitment to a particular size/ shape of black box, or blind belief that the ND555 will inevitably outshine anything else (which for all I know, it may)

Well I like perhaps some (or many?) have listened and enjoyed the NDAC, NDX, NDS, ND555 as well as various Chord DACs including Hugo, TT, Hugo2 and Dave. To me there is a characteristic similar sound to the Naim DACs, perhaps based on similar analogue filtering, i2S, as well as PCM1704Ks and the same AD DSP methods... although refinement and design clearly improves through the range and the ND555 has been rather resolving when I have listened with it, and moves things nicely on from the NDS, albeit I don’t find it has the weight of the NDAC/555PS which was quite something... albeit perhaps not top flight in resolution.

The Chord DACs tend to have a similar trait amongst themselves as well, and to my ears I have yet to hear a more enjoyable all round DAC than the original Hugo, although Dave takes the lead with hidef, and sample variation with the Hugo is greater than I would prefer.. I ended up buying my demo one as it sounded so much better than two other new Hugos I tried. To my ears I just find them potentially more natural sounding than PCM1704K based devices..but that is subjective, and all DACs have a choice of compromise.

So in the end I think it really falls down to sonic preference and ‘house’ style. To me some of the greatest ND555 advancements have been through design decoupling and electrical noise management from the streaming functions and display etc.

 

analogmusic posted:

I think that's why mscaler sends a 705khz signal to Dave which tells Dave to switch off the first stage WTA filter. In any case it shows on Dave screen when the dual bnc is active

As for separate mscaler well Rob watts says the mscaler generates way too much PSU noise to be in the same box as his Dave DAC....

Well the nds also has the PSU in another box....

 

Thanks, Analogmusic!

So we can assume that Dave, HugoTT2 and Qutest are sensitive to the m scaler (resp. its 705 kHz signal) and switch off their own filtering, thanks. But what happens with the filtering in a Hugo/Hugo TT (apart from its upper limit of 384 kHz)? Though Chord say that the m scaler works with any DAC, - I cannot see that the m scaler can have a great effect when the DAC's own filtering is not disabled?

Innocent Bystander posted:
Gazza posted:

I will demo all the new streamers inc the new nd5 with Dave and the blue 2 upscaler. If I like the latter I will just buy the nd5 and a Dave and wait for the mscaler. Despite knowing all about the Chord products , people are trying, buying and loving the ND555. Perhaps they feel they get more of the Naim presentation of music and something different with Chord?

It sounds as if you have an open mind. I suspect in at least some cases  others simply haven’t heard Dave, whether from lack of opportunity, commitment to a particular size/ shape of black box, or blind belief that the ND555 will inevitably outshine anything else (which for all I know, it may)

Hmmm — I guess, if one is super-happy with the NDS, it is “easier” to upgrade to an ND555. This might be an example of path dependence. If I had the cash, I would like to compare Dave/Blu 2 and the ND555. 

Having said this, I like to return to the same sushi place when we visit in Seoul — and it’s about an hour from our accommodation of the last 3 years. Surely, there are great if not better sushi restaurants in our current neighbourhood — but it drives me back to the place I know. Just went there this evening, and the Tuna was yummy... 

Innocent Bystander posted:

Ah sushi...  

I know a great sushi  restaurant in Sheung Shui (New Territorries, HK) - but as it takes a day a more travel to get there and at least £600 (often more), I don’t get to go often

Fortunately, my tube ride was only 1,250 Korean won (one way), which equates to about 90p. But it was rather hot and humid... 

Frank Yang posted:

Sushi? Try Jiro Ono's Sukiyabashi Jiro in Tokyo.

That may be an option during the coming year - when visiting we would like to see what it is like there, but finding/choosing one to try is another matter.Assuming you mean it is good, any particular reason for that assessment? Address?

thanks!

Innocent Bystander posted:
Frank Yang posted:

Sushi? Try Jiro Ono's Sukiyabashi Jiro in Tokyo.

That may be an option during the coming year - when visiting we would like to see what it is like there, but finding/choosing one to try is another matter.Assuming you mean it is good, any particular reason for that assessment? Address?

thanks!

IB, this is the best one (maybe in 'this' world), Abe held a state dinner for Obama there.
Reservation is at least 4 or 6 months in advance, small place, catering for less than 10, and no need to mention the address as it is very well known.

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