Chord Music Power Cable

Arrived the other day, will be installed when the feeling is right. Could be the mother of all power cables. Very impressive construction. 

Crazy expensive? Yes. Boosting the system another notch? We will see. Chord Sarum have been my reference the last 7-8 years, I wouldn’t be surprised if Music eats Sarum for breakfast. Or not.

What did surprice me: Music speaker cables with the new plugs. Deeper, more powerful bass. No clue where that came from.

//Jonas

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Peder posted:

🔹 Jonas,...It will be interesting to hear your listening-impressions,Jorma's power cable, I think is extremely good,but these cables it talks very much about.

Waiting with excitement.....

Peder🙂

Likewise. Very interested to hear what you think, insane price acknowledged, I was massively impressed with what I heard,

I am curious if you guys buying these “high end” cables like the Music,have ever heard or considered Ansuz Acoustics cables? A guy I know from another forum uses Raidho speakers with all the Ansuz distribution boxes and DTC cables,he swears they are phenomenal...Sadly I have not heard them myself.

BPW posted:

I am using Ansuz C2 power cables and their Mainz 8 D2 power distribution block. I am truly astonished at the improvement it has made in my NDS, 552DR,500DR system.

The guy I am referring to(George) is from Chicago,and deals with Tyler.Any chance you deal with the same guy?Apparently he will now be carrying Kudos speakers too.

Yes, Tyler is my dealer. He is a great guy! I wanted to try Chord Music power cords as I am using them in the rest of my system. The Chord Music power cables were not available in the US  so Tyler recommended the Ansuz cables. I tried several models before I selected the cables I am using . For me the Ansuz products had a much gtreater positive impact on my system than the full loom of Chord Music cables, which by the way are very good. Much better in my system than Super Lumina. 

Yes George told me the same thing when he heard I was getting Superlumina cables.Unfortunately I live in Canada,so I might have to pay duty on them,on top of the high cost.I believe George uses the Mainz 8 and the best Cables they make,Dtc i think he said it was called (Diamond)...Anyway,it is way beyond what I can afford,I was just curious if JONAS or anyone had compared Ansuz and Chord Music.

analogmusic posted:

Oh so a dealer likes a power cable which he happens to sell...

how nice of him

analogmusic

It would be strange and frankly disturbing if dealers were to offer products for sale which they believe not to be up to a high performance standard.

Peter

northpole posted:
analogmusic posted:

Oh so a dealer likes a power cable which he happens to sell...

how nice of him

analogmusic

It would be strange and frankly disturbing if dealers were to offer products for sale which they believe not to be up to a high performance standard.

Peter

not very agree. They have to sell all the products of the bunch.   The products are regrouped by distributors.  So the dealer can’t choose all the products he wants to sell, but has to sell  the bunch.

French Rooster posted:
northpole posted:
analogmusic posted:

Oh so a dealer likes a power cable which he happens to sell...

how nice of him

analogmusic

It would be strange and frankly disturbing if dealers were to offer products for sale which they believe not to be up to a high performance standard.

Peter

not very agree. They have to sell all the products of the bunch.   The products are regrouped by distributors.  So the dealer can’t choose all the products he wants to sell, but has to sell  the bunch.

Any specialist retailer can choose their own range of products. There will be a certain amount of pressure from both suppliers and customers but I would say that it is a sign of the dealers integrity and ability if he makes his own choice of products to stock. 

Perol posted:

Why would the last 2 metre perform any major difference to justify a completely silly price, are people really buying this stuff ?

I'd have to assume you haven't dabbled enough with power cables to realize the answer for yourself. Silly prices aside, I've found circa $150 (USD) power cords highly favorable tweaks to my system's SQ. The final 2-metres can provide upshot to objective listeners.

JONAS - Any update ... you can' tease like this it is not fair 

I know someone who went Sarum T ilo of Music, note is was speaker cables and ethernet, they found the Sarum T was 95% of the Music as well over half the cost i believe.

Chord leads wise i only have a meagre Chord Signature, tempted by a Sarum offer, but lately i decided to move everything apart from the Ethernet to Naim Powerlines, it just sounded more Naim.

Obsydian posted:

JONAS - Any update ... you can' tease like this it is not fair 

I know someone who went Sarum T ilo of Music, note is was speaker cables and ethernet, they found the Sarum T was 95% of the Music as well over half the cost i believe.

Chord leads wise i only have a meagre Chord Signature, tempted by a Sarum offer, but lately i decided to move everything apart from the Ethernet to Naim Powerlines, it just sounded more Naim.

I’m afraid I don’t agree with the 95% suggestion. 

I must admit I like Chord Music interconnects in my system but when I had a home loan of a Chord Music power-line for my Linn Radikal I thought it only made some slight inprovement over my standard Linn lead terminated with a 15 amp round pin plug (in a U.K. reg. compliant configuration) but not enough to warrant the price.

By the way, I preferred my Linn 15amp terminated lead  over Chord’s Sarum T.

Richard

 

 

Yes, I’m a bit slow answering but they (2 of them) are now in the system. For now one of them are used with 555PS (#1, do think that’s the analog one?) and the other for 552PS. Replacing Sarum Super PL so it’s a big challenge. 

I will give them a couple of days to be fully played in . Will do some serious tests on Monday but so far so good...

//Jonas

FangfossFlyer posted:

I must admit I like Chord Music interconnects in my system but when I had a home loan of a Chord Music power-line for my Linn Radikal I thought it only made some slight inprovement over my standard Linn lead terminated with a 15 amp round pin plug (in a U.K. reg. compliant configuration) but not enough to warrant the price.

By the way, I preferred my Linn 15amp terminated lead  over Chord’s Sarum T.

Richard

 

 

🔹 FangfossFlyer (Richard),...A thought,seeing in your profile that you have an LP12 and Radikal...it does not stand if you have Trampolin2.

If you have Trampolin2,and have not checked the LP12-Radikal Problem,...that the engine takes in the Trampolin2 foot.....do that.!!

If it is so (that the engine takes in the foot), then you do not get the right lunge when you test a power cord in your Radikal.
This will make you compensate for an error, instead of listening to a possible upgrade.

◾The probability that the LP12 engine takes in the Trampolin2 foot,is between 70 and 100% according to the reported facts of traders in the "LP12-Radikal Problem" thread.

Do NOT rely on traders trying to reduce this major soundquality problem (it occurs),.. Perform the paper-strip test.

See the "LP12-Radikal Problem" thread for more information.

/Peder 🙂

FangfossFlyer posted:

Hi Peder,

My LP12 is fine in this respect as my dealer has been aware of this possible risk for sometime and checks all decks he sells or services. 

Thsnks for flagging it,

All the best,

Richard

🔹 Hi Richard,...Top,then everything is Okey 👍🏻.

Wanted to speak this to you,then I know there are traders who say that this is not a problem.
Thomas O'Keefe,..Linn Trader and LP12-specialist from the United States....who share information in the "LP12-Radikal Problem" thread.

Thomas admits in that thread,that he had not previously believed that this was such a big problem as it proved to be.
Respect for such a public statement.

◾ Thomas O'Keefe wrote in his last post.....
"All said it does appear that any contact at All is a bad thing and should be rectified."

So in other words,the smallest little contact.... how small it even is,the musicality negatively affects.
There is the "paper strip" test,the only sure way to discover even the smallest little contact between the Radikal engine and the Trampolin2 foot.

Then you can calmly return to enjoying the music 😃.

All the best...

/Peder 🙂

BPW posted:

I am using Ansuz C2 power cables and their Mainz 8 D2 power distribution block. I am truly astonished at the improvement it has made in my NDS, 552DR,500DR system.

 

I am also using an Ansuz power cable from wall to my Mainz d2, I think that is the Name of the just released version I have. When we upgraded from my old  Ansuz Mainz to d2 we thought that somebody had changed the listening volume, but nobody touched the volume. I have never experienced that with a power cable change. Ansuz is terrible expensive, but the mains cables and distribution blocks especially the distribution blocks enhances the system more than you can imagine without hearing it!

Claus   

Claud, I could not agree with you more. I have been a long time cable skeptic ,at least until Chord came out with the original Sarum Tuned Array cables. Since then I have been much more open minded. The Ansuz power cables are the first non Naim. Recommended power products I have heard that didn’t adversely affect the Naim sound in some fundamental way! In my system this simply is not the case. Everything sounds better to my ear. What I previously thought were limitations in the recording process are pretty much eliminated. 

FangfossFlyer posted:

I must admit I like Chord Music interconnects in my system but when I had a home loan of a Chord Music power-line for my Linn Radikal I thought it only made some slight inprovement over my standard Linn lead terminated with a 15 amp round pin plug (in a U.K. reg. compliant configuration) but not enough to warrant the price.

By the way, I preferred my Linn 15amp terminated lead  over Chord’s Sarum T.

Richard

 

 

I use 15 amp round pins, too, but on Sarum T on a Klimax Radikal. I did do the comparison with a 13 amp plug and found it substantially inferior.

On all the Chord plugs signature plus the UK versions I have use the mains plug strain relief with is coupled or uncooked to the plug.

If you guys are DIY what I use for table lamps (round pin plugs) does that remove one of of the main design characteristics of the cable setup ?

I think we are all getting bored waiting for Jonas to spill the beans 😉 on the Music.

Obsydian posted:

On all the Chord plugs signature plus the UK versions I have use the mains plug strain relief with is coupled or uncooked to the plug.

If you guys are DIY what I use for table lamps (round pin plugs) does that remove one of of the main design characteristics of the cable setup ?

I think we are all getting bored waiting for Jonas to spill the beans 😉 on the Music.

I supplied the MK plugs and Chord kindly fitted them for me - there’s no strain relief bar, so any benefit is outweighed by the 15 amp plug itself.

15 amp round pin plugs have the advantage of greater contact area and are fuseless. I use them on my radial spurs on the end of industrial spec leads sourced from an old forum member with (I think) Wattgate IECs. 

In a comparison with whatever Dave had before his Saum Ts (plain old Sarum?) I could hear no difference.

Nick Lees posted:

15 amp round pin plugs have the advantage of greater contact area and are fuseless. I use them on my radial spurs on the end of industrial spec leads sourced from an old forum member with (I think) Wattgate IECs. 

In a comparison with whatever Dave had before his Saum Ts (plain old Sarum?) I could hear no difference.

Ahaa I recall now with my old olive active system all feeding into a Hydra which I changed to a round 15A socket.

On my signature and other Sarum T and Music on the Chord site if you look there is a kind of strain relief bar before the plug.

Ok, first, don’t kill the messenger, I’m just reporting what I’m hearing. Maybe nobody will find the same results as I did. 

Second: no, I can’t explain why. Just as I can’t explain why 1 m IC between streamer and pre amp makes such a different. Or why 1 m Ethernet cable makes any difference. Or the links for the speaker. 

Third: is it worth the money? I guess that’s impossible to answer for anybody else then for your self. Me, I’m building a “perfect system”, with few limits, but for sure, my pockets are far from endless. But I’m on a road, now 30 years later, aiming for perfection (to me). And fun it is!

So, with this in mind, framing my findings, Music PL is a clear YES! Music PL brings EXACT the same stuff to the table as the rest of the Music cables: presence! Again, and I know it’ starts to sound stupid saying it over and over, turning fantastic Hi-Fi into something else, way superior but not in dramatic way, it just becomes more ALIVE and THERE in the room. 

If that’s not an important priority, the cable will look like a stupid high priced snake oil product. But if you think, as I do, that PRaT for an example, just is an outcome, aiming to be THERE, this Presence thing should be added to that list IMHO. 

I also think there is a thing going on with Naim-Chord-Kudos-Sonority. Building on each brands strength, they make each part better then it “should” be. But that could be me speculating also. 

After changing around for a while, but for a shorter period then I thought would be needed, PL 1 went to the 552PS (a very very successful marriage) and PL 2 for the analog 555PS. Do remember, I did use Sarum Super PL before and still does for the Melco, 555PS (digital) and 500PS. Music PL made them better also but less so then for 552 and analog 555. 

One final note: if you haven’t tried any “expensive” pl (any brand) but still know what you’re talking about, please, do try first and report back. If you have tried and didn’t like it/couldn’t hear any difference, I totally respect that. 

//Jonas

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