Clearaudio Ovation

Zackwater posted:

Would I be better running the rp10 through the 552 and forget about the Rega aria?

Mr Frog posted:

You need to have a listen ... then YOU can decide, as opposed to others making the decision for you.

You simply cannot come to a proper informed decision by just seeking opinions and without an actual audition.

What they like may not be in your best interests and not to your personal taste ... but it's your money and your choice. 

So I do this how?  There is no Naim/Rega dealer within 7 hours of my house.     Sure in a perfect world I would have my dealer bring over half his shop to demo at my home.   Problem is, the dealer lives half way across the USA.  No dealer will be able to duplicate my exact situation. That’s why I’m asking these questions, hoping that a person/expert could help me make an informed decision.   I can’t miss 2 days of work, fly across the country, spend 2 nights in a hotel, etc., that cost me as much as an rp10.  

 

Sometimes “buying local” is its own reward.  Owning an ultimate-thing on the Moon incurs a real discount, as you suggest.

I think reconcilliation of the benefits of your remoteness with the delights of an ultimate-performance object, supportable at some distance from a major city, must conclude with a practical compromise. 

The compromise you accept will be of interest.  Fear not any judgement from “the city”.

If I was taking a record player to e.g. Antarctica, it would be a Rega, FWIW.

Sincerely, from my own outpost,

Nick

Zackwater posted:
Mr Frog posted:

You need to have a listen ... then YOU can decide, as opposed to others making the decision for you.

You simply cannot come to a proper informed decision by just seeking opinions and without an actual audition.

So I do this how?  There is no Naim/Rega dealer within 7 hours of my house.  

You may be in an unfortunate position that leaves you without many dealer options. Most spending your level of budget have a history with various decks, carts and stages; some personal experience to go with (i.e., upgrading). Correct me if wrong but I get the sense you're jumping into vinyl as a relative novice, or maybe after a long hiatus? Do you have a LP library?

If jumping in cold, it might be worthwhile to lower your sights and begin with lesser gear bought s/h. Cut your losses/regrets through experimentation while gaining direct knowledge. Build from there over time to a vinyl source commensurate with the rest of your gear.

Otherwise, if looking for some sort of magical or no-brainer answer on how to blindly spend up to $20K on your vinyl side, it's chancy you'll find a definitive fit here for your room and ears. Time to do your homework by reading professional reviews, scouring the TT/vinyl forums, and make your own best informed decision on how to best spend your money. Parts of your answer may lie on the Naim forum, but certainly not the entirety.

Now those two posts are why I stay on this forum.  Thank you both.  As for “local” I have one option-McIntosh.  There is a mt5 I have listened to, But it has the cheap factory installed cartridge and no separate phonostage. The tonearm feels cheap.  I’m leaning toward just buying the ro10 and hooking it up to my 552.  I have been out of vinyl for 25 years and I may hate it.  One of the reasons I want a second source is due to my nds dropping songs at the worst possible times.  Such as after a very hard, stressful day at work and I want to listen to my music in my chair in my man cave.  I have about 50 albums and my kids always want to know what to buy Dad, within a year with my obsessive personality I’m sure I will own 200 if I enjoy playing them.  If I take this route the worse thing that could happen is I trade the rp10 to my dealer next year when I upgrade from the 300dr to the 500dr.  I just love the hunt!

As part of your hunt, I have a suggestion for you; you're considering the Rega RP10, and why not, it's a phenomenal deck, up there with the very best, but at a price that makes it look quite reasonable against some of the 5 or even 6 figure decks out there. Oh yes, and I own one and have used it pretty much every day that I've been home since the day I bought it...

However, before making any decision, I would advise you having a read of the Rega book - A Vibration measuring Machine. That way you will have a better appreciation of Rega the company and of a founder, Roy Gandy, who really does seem to know what he's talking about.

Zack,

I got my SN2 from Germany - 10 hours flying time.

I understand your point regarding the difficulty of auditions and especially when folks say - YOU AUDITION.... YOU DECIDE...

:-))

Richard Dane offers some nice and safe advise and if your funds permit you might choose to start with an RP10 with the onboard cart and maybe a year down the line play with another cart

I use a Lehmann Audio SE2 PWX phono and its quite good though not in the high priced league.

If i were you - far away from the dealer - i would go for the brand with the best sound and a good resale value and i think Rega fits the bill

But i must tell you - i run an old Akai AP D30 with a Nagaoka MP30 cart and the lehmann audio phono and i am mighty happy with the sound. ( see system pics 2018 page 26 )

To my mind - the TT is just a record spinner ( with reliable speed and low vibrations ) and its the cart and phono combo that takes over..

The Planar 6 is a fine TT as well and you may choose this as a start point till you build up a good vinyl collection to justify the extra dollars on the deck.

regards

 

 

I bought a second hand Planar3 15 years ago.  I took it directly to my Rega dealer for freshening with the prescribed motor upgrade and a new Elys cartridge.  Other than to have an Exact swapped in a few years ago (driven only by curiosity, the Elys was not tired) I never needed to have it serviced again.  Just sold it, as I found a used RP10 — lucky!

Both of these decks have the power to amaze.  The decks I was used to in the 70s and 80s were not even close.  The rumble and resonance we accepted seems so quaint from today’s vantage point.

The RP10 is a marvelous thing, but I always mourn the departure of a cracker like the 3 with its VFM.

Nick

@Zackwater I’m not sure what dealer you use, but the US distributor for Rega is in Dallas, which is a little over 4 hours by car from Little Rock.  There is also a good Rega (& Linn) dealer in Dallas; Audio Concepts.  I’m sure the two separately, or together, can arrange for you to audition any piece of Rega kit.

Another option you should consider in the price range you’ve mentioned is Peter Swain at @Cymbiosis and the Linn LP12.  Even though Peter is located in the UK, he travels around the globe and could do the setup in your home and possibly even save you costs over a US dealer.  

I’m located in Houston and have had positive experiences with both dealers I’ve mentioned, as well as The Sound Org (Rega distributor).

MarkMcK79 posted:

Another option you should consider in the price range you’ve mentioned is Peter Swain at @Cymbiosis and the Linn LP12.  Even though Peter is located in the UK, he travels around the globe and could do the setup in your home and possibly even save you costs over a US dealer.  

this New Yorker agrees 100%. 

Personally I wouldnt spend rp10 money just to get a record deck, unless I had a stack of vinyl that I wanted to start playing again. I might go for rp6/ania/aria; its half the price.

Plus I understand practicalities make it difficult to hear these things. However a good friend has just bought an rp10/apheta/aria, and I have just bought avid diva ii sp/rb808/benz ace plus cyrus phono signature/psxr2. Including the phono stage, I think I paid £1k more. My cyrus combo is twice the price of his aria, and the avid is £3k without arm. His rb2000 is twice my rb808, and the apheta costs more than my benz. Anyway, while we both appreciate each others systems, I couldnt live with his rega and he couldnt live with my avid. The rp10 might be a world class turntable, but that doesnt mean youd love it.

Ref the clearaudio, their turntables are on the analytical side. RP10 is about speed. Avid is in my opinion more analogue/fluid. I owned a clearaudio emotion/satisfy/aurum woods classic with a stageline for several years before part ex’ing towards the avid, and while the ovation is a big step up from the emotion ( I was considering the performance dc) I much prefer the avid.

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