Football Season 2017/18

Christopher_M posted:
MDS posted:
The [WBA] fans must be asking why that wasn't possible under the much more experienced Pardew.

Absolutely. But who knows the collective minds of footballers?

I read from Pompey News, Mike, that your hoped for consolidation is to be a reality following the Charlton defeat. Next year...

Absolutely, Chris.  Given the changes in management, team, owner and a higher division, I'm happy with a mid-table finish.  I think we've lost 20 games this season, not remotely the form of a side that warrants a play-off place.  As you say, next year.....

beginner posted:

I can't see us getting any points from our remaining games,  can see it going to the last game against Everton, and won't fat sam just love to send us down

Interesting to see many Everton fans whinging about Big Sam's style, much as happened at the Hammers.  I think Everton in mid-table is a very respectable position.  

wenger2015 posted:
MDS posted:
wenger2015 posted:

Usually one team in the bottom three makes a last ditch recovery and a team that’s nearly safe self destructs, I think Southampton just might survive....

So do I....but at whose expense? 

Huddersfield? West Ham?

Swansea are in a very difficult position but looking at the fixtures I think Huddersfield most likely to drop. Their last three fixtures look very tough whereas I can see Swansea picking up points e.g. last game at home against Stoke.

Nice to see Wenger given a respectful and deserved send-off my Fergie and and Old Trafford crowd this afternoon. 

His successor has big job though: an inconsistent United, who have been a long-way off City, are 20 points ahead of the Gunners. That is one hell-of-a-gap.   

I think despite the best efforts of the Media, most of the top top managers have a mutual respect for each other....

Im sure next season all of the top 6 will endeavour to strengthen.... in a way these teams are in a league of their own.

I think next time round, Man City will not have it quite so easy....

Tabby cat posted:

Kev,

Pablo Zabaleta a City legend...nuff said ........Did you go today ?  I  Missed it all.Still think you will stay up this season

 

Hi Ian - yes I went, unfortunately. If we survive, it will be only just. I can't see us getting any more pooints to be honest. Moyes was tactically inept. The only way to contain City is to attack them, but again an overly cautious Moyes defended deep, and City took advantage.

Kevin-W posted:
Tabby cat posted:

Kev,

Pablo Zabaleta a City legend...nuff said ........Did you go today ?  I  Missed it all.Still think you will stay up this season

 

Hi Ian - yes I went, unfortunately. If we survive, it will be only just. I can't see us getting any more pooints to be honest. Moyes was tactically inept. The only way to contain City is to attack them, but again an overly cautious Moyes defended deep, and City took advantage.

Attack City? I think your being a little naive. City are an exceptional team.... even the top teams don’t adopt that policy.

I think you have a good enough squad to stay up.

wenger2015 posted:
Kevin-W posted:
Tabby cat posted:

Kev,

Pablo Zabaleta a City legend...nuff said ........Did you go today ?  I  Missed it all.Still think you will stay up this season

 

Hi Ian - yes I went, unfortunately. If we survive, it will be only just. I can't see us getting any more pooints to be honest. Moyes was tactically inept. The only way to contain City is to attack them, but again an overly cautious Moyes defended deep, and City took advantage.

Attack City? I think your being a little naive. City are an exceptional team.... even the top teams don’t adopt that policy.

I think you have a good enough squad to stay up.

I think Liverpool have made a pretty good job of taking games to City and with some success.

MDS posted:
wenger2015 posted:
Kevin-W posted:
Tabby cat posted:

Kev,

Pablo Zabaleta a City legend...nuff said ........Did you go today ?  I  Missed it all.Still think you will stay up this season

 

Hi Ian - yes I went, unfortunately. If we survive, it will be only just. I can't see us getting any more pooints to be honest. Moyes was tactically inept. The only way to contain City is to attack them, but again an overly cautious Moyes defended deep, and City took advantage.

Attack City? I think your being a little naive. City are an exceptional team.... even the top teams don’t adopt that policy.

I think you have a good enough squad to stay up.

I think Liverpool have made a pretty good job of taking games to City and with some success.

They have, but have also had that little bit of  luck you need.. but to be fair they say you earn your luck..maybe 

wenger2015 posted:

Attack City? I think your being a little naive. City are an exceptional team.... even the top teams don’t adopt that policy.

I think you have a good enough squad to stay up.

City are not invulnerable, as a number of teams have shown a number of times this season. We actually did well against them earlier in the season with a more attacking-minded line-up. Moyes' lack of imagination and caution has cost us dearly in our last three games (Stoke, Arsenal, City).

We might have a 'good enough squad to stay up' on paper, but football, as the old cliche goes, is played on grass. If we stay up, it will be because there are three worse teams, not because of any merit.

Harry Redknapp gets a letter delivered to his house.

Opens it. It's an electricity bill for £17,000 forwarded on from Tottenham Hotspur Football Club..

He rings the club "I think there's been a mistake, you sent me a bill but I haven't worked for you for years!"

"No Harry sorry, but there’s no mistake. You were the last person in the trophy room in 2008 and you left the effing lights on!".

Great Stuff Mike,

Keeping on the Spurs topic this is a good one.When Kyle Walker left them for us he pays more in tax then he earned in wages with them and still way better off.I do admire Spurs with the football they play,but they have really got to get real with their wage structure.How long will Harry Kane stay when the really big offers come in maybe next season ?

I can understand players taking the money as you can set yourself up for life and sort friends and family as you have a limited time at the very top.....and buy some Statement for your swimming pool area of your mansion  

 

MDS posted:

Harry Redknapp gets a letter delivered to his house.

Opens it. It's an electricity bill for £17,000 forwarded on from Tottenham Hotspur Football Club..

He rings the club "I think there's been a mistake, you sent me a bill but I haven't worked for you for years!"

"No Harry sorry, but there’s no mistake. You were the last person in the trophy room in 2008 and you left the effing lights on!".

Harry apparently is not good with money!!!! Apart from an off shore account and one In Monaco and one in the Camyan Islands he’s broke !!!

Tabby cat posted:

Great Stuff Mike,

Keeping on the Spurs topic this is a good one.When Kyle Walker left them for us he pays more in tax then he earned in wages with them and still way better off.I do admire Spurs with the football they play,but they have really got to get real with their wage structure.How long will Harry Kane stay when the really big offers come in maybe next season ?

I can understand players taking the money as you can set yourself up for life and sort friends and family as you have a limited time at the very top.....and buy some Statement for your swimming pool area of your mansion  

 

You really mean Walker pays tax?!  

Spurs will always have lesser wages for top players, unless they get a richer owner to compete with owners of the other four top clubs in PL.  So its maximum effort on all fronts sort of David Vs Goliath scenario.  I see Liverpool have reached over the line with Roma, my guarded respect for them but I will be happy if my team finishes over them in the PL!

Congratulations to Liverpool getting to the final.  A terrific achievement in itself, regardless of the result in the final.  Another highly entertaining game tonight, though I'm not sure that a 4-2 win to Roma reflected the game itself (not that LFC will care).  

The prospect of Real M v LFC final is mouth-watering. Both sides with highly capable in attack and fragile at the back.   

MDS posted:

Congratulations to Liverpool getting to the final.  A terrific achievement in itself, regardless of the result in the final.  Another highly entertaining game tonight, though I'm not sure that a 4-2 win to Roma reflected the game itself (not that LFC will care).  

The prospect of Real M v LFC final is mouth-watering. Both sides with highly capable in attack and fragile at the back.   

Agreed!  Will be cheering on LFC in the final, but I do think they will be at a significant disadvantage.

RM has more recent big game experience and success. They also have better depth, and a better keeper. LFC could still eek out a win, but it would take a near perfect game and one or two lucky breaks.

They also face a very stiff challenge on Sunday. Chelsea has been playing really well of late. If I am reading the table correctly, 4th place could easily come down to the final week of matches!

 

I am trying to work out if this will be on a free TV channel (ie ITV). I'm going to be away and would like to set my recorder in advance. I have a very intermittent interest in football but I think this might be worth watching. Anyone know for sure?

Looks like BT Sport will stream for free but cannot work out if anyone else is allowed to take it. I will be in France at the time so maybe I can find a broadcaster there.

I'd normally rather have root-canal work than watch Christiano Ronaldo strutting and posturing but since I think LFC have a good chance to win I will make an exception in this case.

Bruce

Hook posted:
MDS posted:

Congratulations to Liverpool getting to the final.  A terrific achievement in itself, regardless of the result in the final.  Another highly entertaining game tonight, though I'm not sure that a 4-2 win to Roma reflected the game itself (not that LFC will care).  

The prospect of Real M v LFC final is mouth-watering. Both sides with highly capable in attack and fragile at the back.   

Agreed!  Will be cheering on LFC in the final, but I do think they will be at a significant disadvantage.

RM has more recent big game experience and success. They also have better depth, and a better keeper. LFC could still eek out a win, but it would take a near perfect game and one or two lucky breaks.

They also face a very stiff challenge on Sunday. Chelsea has been playing really well of late. If I am reading the table correctly, 4th place could easily come down to the final week of matches!

 

Your assessment is hard to disagree with, Hook, but the knock-out stages of this year's Champions League has produced so many crazy games and results that 'form' and 'pedigree' seem almost incidental. Not sure how Real will play but I think we can be confident that Klopp will send out his players with instructions to 'go for it'. If they play with the pace and intensity of recent ties I think Real are going to have to rely more on the luck they've been enjoying in the completion so far rather than a disciplined defence. Somehow I don't see the final being a cautious 1-0.    

The Strat (Fender) posted:

Ironic that 2 teams previously managed by Tony Pullis are going to be relegated. 

As a Boro supporter the irony is not lost on Teesside.Whilst he was not everybodies first choice nobody can deny that he has been instrumental in helping the club reach the Championship Play Offs.He has given the team a sense of identity and purpose that was lacking under Garry Monk's tenure.As many pundits have said , Pulis is exactly the type of manager both clubs would have considered to help stave off relegation. Oh well, thats modern day football for you  

Saints will be sick at conceding a last minute equaliser at Goodison - a point I don't think the Toffee's deserved - but at least go into Tuesday's crunch game against the Swans outside the relegation zone.  There will be a lot of very nervous fans watching that one.  

Well done to B'mouth and Pompey.

This Saint is choked following the game at Goodison. I listened on Radio Solent. Saints had done everything and had the game won at 1-0 at the end of the four minutes of injury time. For some reason, according to radio summariser, an extra minute was played, during which an Everton free kick was taken, allegedly from the wrong place, from which, ultimately, they levelled.

Hughes was very fair in his post match radio comments but might be censured for criticism of the officals.

But forget it, we can hold our heads up, and Swansea on Tues is all that matters now.

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