Football Season 2017/18

Christopher_M posted:

Well done to B'mouth and Pompey.

This Saint is choked following the game at Goodison. I listened on Radio Solent. Saints had done everything and had the game won at 1-0 at the end of the four minutes of injury time. For some reason, according to radio summariser, an extra minute was played, during which an Everton free kick was taken, allegedly from the wrong place, from which, ultimately, they levelled.

Hughes was very fair in his post match radio comments but might be censured for criticism of the officals.

But forget it, we can hold our heads up, and Swansea on Tues is all that matters now.

I watched on it BT Sport, Chris. The equaliser was a shot that took a wicked deflection, wrong footing the keeper, who I thought had an excellent game.  Everton were poor. But once the disappointment of losing the extra two points fades, as it will over the next 48 hours, Saints will take a lots of positives from that performance. I think the Swans will be more nervous about Tuesday's game than your lot.   

Yes, Chris. I was interested to watch Eisner's press conference and his explanation for the shirt sponsor to be Portsmouth Uni.  I was taken by his view that the importance of the association with the sponsor and what that says about the club is more important than the money it brings in. A refreshing view to have in English football. As I heard his words my mind immediately went to the stick that Newcastle got for having the shirt sponsor Wonga.  

As you say, we seem to be in good hands.

Christopher_M posted:

Mike, Univ I could have accepted but uni, you're bloody joking me aren't you at our age?!

I’ve just suggested to SWMBO that her Uni (roughly 12 miles N of SMS) might like to follow PP’s lead and sponsor “our heroes in red ‘n’ white”. She was unimpressed.

MDS posted:
Christopher_M posted:

Well done to B'mouth and Pompey.

This Saint is choked following the game at Goodison. I listened on Radio Solent. Saints had done everything and had the game won at 1-0 at the end of the four minutes of injury time. For some reason, according to radio summariser, an extra minute was played, during which an Everton free kick was taken, allegedly from the wrong place, from which, ultimately, they levelled.

Hughes was very fair in his post match radio comments but might be censured for criticism of the officals.

But forget it, we can hold our heads up, and Swansea on Tues is all that matters now.

I watched on it BT Sport, Chris. The equaliser was a shot that took a wicked deflection, wrong footing the keeper, who I thought had an excellent game.  Everton were poor. But once the disappointment of losing the extra two points fades, as it will over the next 48 hours, Saints will take a lots of positives from that performance. I think the Swans will be more nervous about Tuesday's game than your lot.   

I hope Saints get relegated. Not because I’ve anything against them, but it will be so funny if Mark Hughes is responsible for the relegation of 2 teams in the SAME season. I suspect he spends too much time on the training pitch instructing his defenders how to get away with grappling with the opposing forwards.

 I don’t think his comments about the ref where too bad. It wasn’t a foul and the free kick wasn’t taken from the correct spot. The challenge was about 4 yards from the corner flag, the kick was taken about 10 yards from the flag. So, 90 yards from the goal, with seven or eight players touching the ball before it hit the net. (3 of those Southampton players).

 

Come on City - Its nice to finally get the Trophy.Sad that Ya Ya Toure is leaving .As he was brilliant for us especially in the Mancini - Pellagrini years.Looking forward to next season and see if we can defend it.Should be a tasty season next years.Hope you are still there Chris.Swansea - Southampton Tuesday is going to be massive for your Saints.

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Unfortunately most Cardiff and Swansea fans hate each other. 

I went to a Cardiff v Arsenal FA Cup game a few years back, as I was walking back to the car I was mistaken for a Cardiff fan by someone who clearly supported Swansea, it was a very unpleasant situation.

Suzy Wong posted:

I see that Saints are the victims of another bout of  “Fergie Time”.

Losing to the 100 point champions 0-1 in that manner was no disgrace because our performance was good I thought. The overwhelming feeling for me is of immense relief leaving St Mary's this evening.

I wish Tadic had kept his shorts on though.

Until August....

Looking forward to Kev's views on Moyes getting sacked.Shame he turned them around.Can't see Rafa leaving Newcastle though for WestHam although Shaktar Donetsk manager Paulo Fonseca has apparently been photographed leaving David Sullivan's house this week.But he's Ukrainian and doesn't have any experience of managing in the EPL.

I  would like to see Moyes back at Everton with more control over the running of the club.

I don't know what the WHU and Everton boards think they are doing.  Given the position of both teams when Moyes and Big Sam were appointed, and where they finished the season, I think it unarguable that both managers have been successful.  If the boards think these two clubs need new managers because 'those clubs should be competing for a top-six spot' they are deluded.  If it's about 'listening to the fans' who want to see prettier football, the boards are stupid as well as deluded.  A finish of 8th in the toughest, most competitive league in the world is a very, very respectable position for the Toffees; and mid-table for the Hammers, having had a load of injuries and seriously flirted with relegation is also respectable. But then I'm a neutral on this and maybe Kevin and Blueknowz have a different perspective.    

Oh well, another season that promised so much has ended in tedious mediocrity for my lot, Everton.

£200 million spent, two managers gone. I don't know if Moshiri can put another big chunk of cash up again for transfers. The only hope for us is to be bought up by Aramco and a hybridised clone of Ferguson and Wenger installed as the new manager. And our local rivals are in the Champions League final. Not that I'm in any way depressed about it..... but I haven't left my coffin since Sunday.

I'm not sorry to see the back of that astute, but deluded, self-publicist "Big Sam". We finished 8th after being 15th when he was appointed - but a country mile from the top six, who are in another league entirely.

The style of football being played was archaic and awful to watch - a back four with often three defensive central midfielders - and there was little in the way of service to our lone striker. Rooney might well not be the player he once was but a defensive midfielder he isn't. And still we shipped in goals!

We didn't deserve some of our wins in the final run-up on the merits of our play - the games against Southampton and Huddersfield spring to mind.

I might have to start supporting Tranmere Rovers.

Anyone looking forward to the World Cup???

Regards,

Vlad

I've just seen that one of England's, EFC's and Huddersfield's finest players, Ray Wilson passed away today.

VladtheImpala posted:

Anyone looking forward to the World Cup???

Regards,

Vlad

I've just seen that one of England's, EFC's and Huddersfield's finest players, Ray Wilson passed away today.

On the first: just a bit! First time for ages we're going with no real expectations, and a young, talented squad.

On second: very sad news Ray W was one of the unsung heroes of  '66.

Big Sam is very good at what he does, possibly like Tony pullis, he’s great at saving teams in trouble. 

But would you want him as a long term option, I can understand the fans, who pay week in week out to see their team.....answering no to that question.

Quite possibly he is a little tainted due to the England manager episode....?

Expectations of Fans is often unrealistic.... maybe that’s beginning to extend to the board as well 

Everton supporters don’t want to finish in the top six, they want to finish first. (And Real Mardid to win the championis league).

With regards to big Sam. He’s done a good job at Everton. His main problem is he doesn’t get enough time to build a squad at a club, because he antagonises the fans so much. (Apart from Bolton)

Ray Wilson, one of the first attacking full backs. (I must dig out my film of the 66 FA Cup Final).

An interview from 1999.

 http://www.bbc.co.uk/archive/f..._legends/11916.shtml

How the life of a footballer has changed, he was a World Cup winner and earning £30 a week as player coach at Oldham.

wenger2015 posted:

Big Sam is very good at what he does, possibly like Tony pullis, he’s great at saving teams in trouble. 

But would you want him as a long term option, I can understand the fans, who pay week in week out to see their team.....answering no to that question.

Quite possibly he is a little tainted due to the England manager episode....?

Expectations of Fans is often unrealistic.... maybe that’s beginning to extend to the board as well 

Well, I know you wouldn't want him at the Gunners, but he's got a good record at delivering respectable results with (relatively) meagre resources. 

MDS posted:
wenger2015 posted:

Big Sam is very good at what he does, possibly like Tony pullis, he’s great at saving teams in trouble. 

But would you want him as a long term option, I can understand the fans, who pay week in week out to see their team.....answering no to that question.

Quite possibly he is a little tainted due to the England manager episode....?

Expectations of Fans is often unrealistic.... maybe that’s beginning to extend to the board as well 

Well, I know you wouldn't want him at the Gunners, but he's got a good record at delivering respectable results with (relatively) meagre resources. 

Agree. 

What is intriguing is just why the Everton fans dislike him so much? It was similar when he was at West Ham? 

Is it all about his style of play? 

Supporters don't recognise rationality! Of course we want our team to win every time and win every competition they are eligible to enter, preferably with a team consisting of superstars and academy graduates who come from the local area.

Actually, I'm OK with LFC beating Real Madrid...…. but I'm not OK with play-it-by-the-numbers, set-piece football. Give us some creativity & roll on an exciting World Cup!

 

 

I dont think expectation of fans has become unrealistic. .the media and pundits think its better to win at any cost ( no matter how boring the football is) apart from 2 or 3 teams the prem offers mediocre football at best, as a long suffering west ham fan the only good thing about them back in the 70s and 80s was at least you got entertained , but the  football they serve up today is diabolical ....you go to football to be entertained, those games are getting less and less with each passing season...i go to the park now ..its free ...the players as slighly hung ovr from the night b4 but they alway give 100%... 

Don't get me wrong, some of football served up by Man City and Liverpool this season has been breath-taking, edge-of-the-seat stuff.  But there aren't many sides who can realistically expect to attack like that and still win games.  Also, I think there is something to be admired about the defensive side of the game. I've long had an admiration for the iron-discipline and organisational excellence of good Italian teams.  The ability and skills required to snuff out the attacking intent of the opposition are under-valued, in my view. I also quite like the Italian players habit of celebrating on the pitch a piece of defensive excellence. 

I'd be very happy to see England grind out 1-0 wins in all their games next month, exceeding at defence excellence,  and bring home the World Cup  

Maybe I'm just sad!  

Tabby cat posted:

Looking forward to Kev's views on Moyes getting sacked.Shame he turned them around.Can't see Rafa leaving Newcastle though for WestHam although Shaktar Donetsk manager Paulo Fonseca has apparently been photographed leaving David Sullivan's house this week.But he's Ukrainian and doesn't have any experience of managing in the EPL.

I  would like to see Moyes back at Everton with more control over the running of the club.

At the risk of being pedantic Fonseca is Potuguese.  Also lack of EPL experience didn't seem to affect Pep too much!

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