Football Season 2017/18

My prediction for the season.

Lukako will become the next Gary Birtles, sold in the next transfer window.

He has his strengths. He’s powerful, fast and a good finisher.

But, he scores most of his goals against relegation fodder, usually late on in the game when the opposition is pushing lots of defenders forward or disheartened. He struggles to score against the top teams with well organised defences.

It could be argued it will be different at Man U, he’ll be playing with better players. But that wasn’t the case in the Euros last year, it was blatantly obvious his Belgium team mates wouldn’t pass the ball to him in a congested penalty area, it was embarrassing. Good job he didn’t go to Chelsea, Eden hazard was the worst culprit.

 

Another Evertonian here. I'm really looking forward to this season. We've bought astutely and we've bought early for a change. Koeman's getting rid of our  "inferiority complex" players. Brought in skillful players with great work-rate, the tempo will be totally different and we won't have to tailor our play to just the one striker. I really like what's happening!

COYB!

Spudgun posted:

Another Evertonian here. I'm really looking forward to this season. We've bought astutely and we've bought early for a change. Koeman's getting rid of our  "inferiority complex" players. Brought in skillful players with great work-rate, the tempo will be totally different and we won't have to tailor our play to just the one striker. I really like what's happening!

COYB!

Yes, a very refreshing change to our usual transfer dealings! I don't think Koeman's trading is done yet - Sigurdsson and another striker according to the rumour mill at work.

I think Lukaku will score a shedload for the Mankychester Utd but will give it until Christmas before "His Satanic Majesty" Mourinho starts to criticise him openly. Isn't it this season the Divine Mr M he is scheduled to fall out with his current club?

COYB!

fatcat posted:

My dads in anfield cemetery. He’ll be turning in his grave.

Probably trying to turn his back on Anfield! Apologies for the irreverence.

The rivalry between EFC and the other lot makes for odd behaviour. A Blue relative of mine worked in the city center and commuted in by car. The quickest route was past "The Other Place" but he always took a route by which it was not possible to see it!

Kevin-W posted:

Looks like we are getting a Hart transplant....

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/40625646

Great business if you do Kev.Great keeper why we sent him on lone for Bravo was a bit of a rik.

Well pleased that City have got Kyle Walker from the Spuds......f###ing awesome defender.

Think he will be brilliant, especially as Pep loves his defenders going on the attack.

Cant wait to our first game away to Brighton.....and I have a ticket.

How was the Frapp last weekend ?

Wishing you a good day Kev

Christopher_M posted:

Meanwhile The Sun reports that a Virgil van Dijk move to Anfield is back on and that Liverpool is the only club the player wants to move to.

If so, the Saints should be charging Liverpool an extra 25% 'tapping-up' charge on top of the transfer fee.

Spudgun posted:

Another Evertonian here. I'm really looking forward to this season. We've bought astutely and we've bought early for a change. Koeman's getting rid of our  "inferiority complex" players. Brought in skillful players with great work-rate, the tempo will be totally different and we won't have to tailor our play to just the one striker. I really like what's happening!

COYB!

Hi Spud,

Whats you views on Rooneys return.Do you think he will a regular starter or more off the bench ?

Icing on the cake for Wayne going home.I know hes lost a bit of pace but still got a lot to offer a team>great skill and vision and experience .

 

 

MDS posted:
Christopher_M posted:

Meanwhile The Sun reports that a Virgil van Dijk move to Anfield is back on and that Liverpool is the only club the player wants to move to.

If so, the Saints should be charging Liverpool an extra 25% 'tapping-up' charge on top of the transfer fee.

Saints would deserve triple points on their Nectar card, as a major supplier.

Tabby cat posted:
Kevin-W posted:

Looks like we are getting a Hart transplant....

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/40625646

Great business if you do Kev.Great keeper why we sent him on lone for Bravo was a bit of a rik.

Well pleased that City have got Kyle Walker from the Spuds......f###ing awesome defender.

Think he will be brilliant, especially as Pep loves his defenders going on the attack.

Cant wait to our first game away to Brighton.....and I have a ticket.

How was the Frapp last weekend ?

Wishing you a good day Kev

Cheers Ian. Hopefully we will get one or both of Marko Arnautavich and Javier Hernandez (although the latter loks unlikely).

The Frapp were brilliant - but you knew I'd say that!

 

Kev,

Spot on - about the Frapp I never expected anything but a big thumbs up.

On the  latest avater front......any chance of some hauntingly beautiful face reinstated.....I know Syd is a British treasure and all that and of cause it's your call.But from one of your many adoring forum public !!

Was reading a post in HiFI corner this morning which seems to have vanished.

I came to the realisation that the padded cell is actually a place of sanity.

Couldnt believe how some posters get so defensive about their products and then get really nasty if their dac - turntable what ever gets the slightest critism from someone else.

Couldn't help thinking what they have is so ,so far ahead of what your average person listens to,if you like the sound of your product that's all that matters.

It will all probably be in a landfill site in 60 years

Sorry couldn't resist a Monday night rant...3 rd Vodka and Tonic. !

Wishing you all the best Chris for the future with regard  to your redundancy.

Keeping my fingers crossed for you -Sorry didn't add to your redundancy post as so many replies offered brilliant advice.As H.H says it's incredible warming the wisdom and empathy from the Forum 

Wishing the Saints a good season.

Cheers Ian

Thank you, Ian, this is very good of you. As it is of all who have repsonded so generously on the particular redundancy thread. I'm sort of keeping my powder dry at the moment because there are a few irons in the fire and there may be changes/ developments.

I want you to know I supported City as a boy in the Franny Lee-Colin Bell years, basically because I liked the sky blue shirts.

I've always enjoyed working there, including in the Maine Rd days, 'fifteen pounds to look after yer car, mister'. I first worked at the Etihad for the Commonwealth Games in 2002. It was good but the transformation to a football ground was glorious.

As a lensman, I'd say it's the best ground to work in the league. First, there's Rose's tearoom where we all sit at a long table and you can't touch the sandwiches and cakes until you've had your soup. Secondly, it's all run by photographer, 'Hodgie'. Various grounds have suffered over the years where everyone and his mate with a camera was blagging a spot in 'the pits', making it difficult for the genuine guy, who had travelled up from, say, the south coast, and was cutting it a bit fine on kickoff.

Working with the club, Hodgie changed all that. First only the bona fides come in. Second, the away team's club photographer and the lensman from the away team's local paper are allocated a spot each. They are even allocated spots at the other end so that if the teams swap after the toss, I am still going to get the Saints attack. Then he takes all the Press cards from the remaining snappers and there is a lucky dip to allocate who sits where. There are never any complaints and it's always fair in the long run. The wi-fi is also good.

The thing that is nice photographically is that we all sit low, so our lenses have got the pitch at the very bottom of the frame as these pics from my visit last season show: http://www.dailyecho.co.uk/spo...ts_at_City_/?ref=rss The pics of the City attack are from the Press Association. All are copyrighted.

I've rambled, Ian, but thanks. Best to City too.

Chris

Rooney return to Everton, I feel will be beneficial to the rest of the team.  He has come home, he's been there, done that, he can offer his experience, it will not be so much as to what he can offer as a footballer on the field, but more what he can offer or show off the pitch.

Romi posted:

Rooney return to Everton, I feel will be beneficial to the rest of the team.  He has come home, he's been there, done that, he can offer his experience, it will not be so much as to what he can offer as a footballer on the field, but more what he can offer or show off the pitch.

I agree - Rooney has a winning mentality, a strong team ethic and a lot of medals! He has shown with Man U a willingness to sacrifice his individuality for the benefit of his team. He is not the player he once was but is still a very gifted player.

In what position, though? He is a better passer (with either foot), holds onto the ball better, can take a mean free kick or set piece than e.g. Barkley. Attacking midfield??? Lone striker or in a two with Sandro??? 

Let's see if Koeman can figure it out................

Christopher_M posted:

Thank you, Ian, this is very good of you. As it is of all who have repsonded so generously on the particular redundancy thread. I'm sort of keeping my powder dry at the moment because there are a few irons in the fire and there may be changes/ developments.

I want you to know I supported City as a boy in the Franny Lee-Colin Bell years, basically because I liked the sky blue shirts.

I've always enjoyed working there, including in the Maine Rd days, 'fifteen pounds to look after yer car, mister'. I first worked at the Etihad for the Commonwealth Games in 2002. It was good but the transformation to a football ground was glorious.

As a lensman, I'd say it's the best ground to work in the league. First, there's Rose's tearoom where we all sit at a long table and you can't touch the sandwiches and cakes until you've had your soup. Secondly, it's all run by photographer, 'Hodgie'. Various grounds have suffered over the years where everyone and his mate with a camera was blagging a spot in 'the pits', making it difficult for the genuine guy, who had travelled up from, say, the south coast, and was cutting it a bit fine on kickoff.

Working with the club, Hodgie changed all that. First only the bona fides come in. Second, the away team's club photographer and the lensman from the away team's local paper are allocated a spot each. They are even allocated spots at the other end so that if the teams swap after the toss, I am still going to get the Saints attack. Then he takes all the Press cards from the remaining snappers and there is a lucky dip to allocate who sits where. There are never any complaints and it's always fair in the long run. The wi-fi is also good.

The thing that is nice photographically is that we all sit low, so our lenses have got the pitch at the very bottom of the frame as these pics from my visit last season show: http://www.dailyecho.co.uk/spo...ts_at_City_/?ref=rss The pics of the City attack are from the Press Association. All are copyrighted.

I've rambled, Ian, but thanks. Best to City too.

Chris

Chris,

Thanks so much for your story working as a photographer with  your working trips at City.Found it very interesting what you said about camara angles for the best pictures and where photographer's get to sit

I often watch  City's channel on YouTube and it always strikes me what a friendly bunch of people they are from the Kitmen,official club photographer's etc.

It's amazing the transformation at City.I remember when Sheik Monsour brought the club and Mark Hughes was the manager and they signed Robiniho who was a huge signing for City.Lovely to see the evolution in the club the last 10 years.

Think City will be on fire this season now the defence has been sorted.

Agree the Ethiad's a beautiful ground love the curvy roof.Apart from 20 trips there over the years to see City as I am from the south coast - saw Oasis there in 2005 - great memory....must have been special for Liam and Noel being massive City fans 

Cheers Ian

 

Thanks MDS,

Brought a big smile about our defence spend.Sad to see Kolorov move on but getting Mendy and Walker should be exciting and Ederson in goal should be tasty -then again I thought that about Bravo this time last season !

Nice business if it pays off.Its a real reflection on how much money is in the game.In a way it's obscene,but the reality is we live in a capitalist world.I suppose when Guidola discussed next season with Sheik Monsour and highlighted what needed to be strengthened it's just another part of his business.He must have spent tens of billions on the airline.Great to have the open cheque book,always made very welcome when he comes to home games.

Good luck to Pompey for next season.Promotion will be a confidence booster for them.

Always loved the Rednapp years at Pompey.Linvoy Primus - David James.....2 lovely Geezer's.Winning the Cup was magic for the town.I also remember a midfielder Mulatari ( sorry if spelling wrong ) who was scoring regularly.

Thanks Tabby Cat. Linvoy is still part of the club. Some sort of unpaid ambassador. Muntari was a good player for us, albeit with a terrible disciplinary record. He's playing in Italy now and you might recall a bit of publicity earlier this year when he walked off the pitch because of racist chanting and the ref booked him for it.

And while we're reminiscing, my memories of City were the stylish days of Bell and Summerbee, plus the canny Francis Lee.  Given the clogging that was allowed back then and the rubbish state of the pitches, the silky skills of those players were really special.  

Anyway, really looking forward to the season and will be fascinated to watch the race for the Premiership again. Great to see so much genuine competition. 

MDS posted:
Tabby cat posted:

Neymar !

The personification of the game being a wash with money.

Awesome player - but £40 million a year salary WTF !

Hopefully that will now enable him to afford to pay for a proper haircut.

But that could spell the end for his bandana when he's in mufti.

Good first day of the season at Fratton Park today. New owner there, capacity crowd (18,000), 2-0 win with the classy-looking new striker, Brett Pitman, getting both.  Team a bit disjointed at times but looked solid at the back.

I'm happy tonight.    

MDS posted:

Good first day of the season at Fratton Park today. New owner there, capacity crowd (18,000), 2-0 win with the classy-looking new striker, Brett Pitman, getting both.  Team a bit disjointed at times but looked solid at the back.

I'm happy tonight.    

Are you coming to Cardiff on Tuesday for the Carabao Cup game? We never turn up for the cup any more so you should see another win. I'd like to wish you well for the season but still feeling a bit cheated by the FA Cup Final we lost to you...

Penarth Blues posted:
MDS posted:

Good first day of the season at Fratton Park today. New owner there, capacity crowd (18,000), 2-0 win with the classy-looking new striker, Brett Pitman, getting both.  Team a bit disjointed at times but looked solid at the back.

I'm happy tonight.    

Are you coming to Cardiff on Tuesday for the Carabao Cup game? We never turn up for the cup any more so you should see another win. I'd like to wish you well for the season but still feeling a bit cheated by the FA Cup Final we lost to you...

I don't think we have any more interest in that cup than your lot, PB, though Warnock-manged clubs always seem hard to beat. That cup final feels a long time ago given how far we fell in the intervening years. Kanu is still a hero at the club, in part because of that cup-winning goal.

See your lot nicked a good away win at Burton yesterday.     

Christopher_M posted:

Ian, Phil McNulty of the Beeb has City as Champions. Saints 14th, which will not go down well round here!

C.

Not surprising. The other teams are moving on, and what are Saints doing.........a new manager (again), a "replacement" for Van Dyke and a one midfielder......

Kevin-W posted:

Blimey - the Goons v Foxes game must be an absolute belter - 4-3 now.

Yeah. What a cracking first game? Arsenal looking fragile at the back. Don't like being pressured when they play it out. But good going forward. Must say Wenger got the subs right. Foxes will feel hard done by, scoring three goals away from home and getting nothing.  

Well it wasn't pleasant to watch at times last night but as a game of football it had everything. Lets hope Koscielny and Mustafi dont get injured to often because their back up looked a bit shaky, lets hope some new defenders arrive.
Lacazette was great again as was Kolasinac as always going forward we looked good lets hope Sanchez decides to stay.

As a I live in Brighton have a bit of a soft spot for the Seagulls and wish them luck ( I think they are going to need it ) against Man City later on. I read a quote from Johnathan Pearce that said Man City just have spent more on full backs that it cost Brighton & Hove Albion to build their stadium The Amex.

Suzy Wong posted:
Christopher_M posted:

Ian, Phil McNulty of the Beeb has City as Champions. Saints 14th, which will not go down well round here!

C.

Not surprising. The other teams are moving on, and what are Saints doing.........a new manager (again), a "replacement" for Van Dyke and a one midfielder......

And the result being..............taking up the last slot on MotD this evening!

Suzy Wong posted:
Suzy Wong posted:
Christopher_M posted:

Ian, Phil McNulty of the Beeb has City as Champions. Saints 14th, which will not go down well round here!

C.

Not surprising. The other teams are moving on, and what are Saints doing.........a new manager (again), a "replacement" for Van Dyke and a one midfielder......

And the result being..............taking up the last slot on MotD this evening!

Seems possible that my duck (wearing red bib) to avoid a clattering as Swans' Martin Olsson came over the barrier could provide the highlight in a lacklustre game.

Saints have a new manager but the same problems. Yet I'm heartened. They are at least showing intent and creating chances.

My brother was at the Brighton match yesterday and he said that each and every supporter there was happy with 2-0 and it was like watching a football equivalent to the 'Alamo.' I suppose they won't be playing Man City each week but they were a bit negative it was like watching an FA Cup tie between a non League and Premiership side.

I know it was 'only' Crystal Palace but look what Huddersfield and then Burnley did with a positive attitude yesterday. If Brighton give one half the table that much respect and try and nick points from teams in the bottom half then I think they might come unstuck!

Anyway great start to the new season lets hope for lots more of the same (accept Arsenal's shaky back three.)

Bob,

I attended the Brighton game also and thought Brighton played Ok they parked the bus defense wise but it was only a matter of time for the sheer quility of our midfield to unlock them .They did look dangerous for 10 mins before Aguero scored.Thought Kompany and Carl Walker looked good at the back.KDB and Silva where brilliant.

Great atmosphere in the ground - hope Brighton stay up as they have a nice stadium and City.Weather was perfect and as always it was great to be with the City away supporters and had a good few beers in Brighton and in the stadium.Just magic when the players applauded us at full time.

Great to see Rooney score on his return to Everton - his goal celebration said it all - loads of emotion flooding out.


 

Kevin-W posted:

Yes! We're bottom of the League! A pretty abysmal performance by everyone on the pitch. Spineless! Sort it out Slav!

 

Keep it in perspective, Kevin. You were away to a massive club with realistic title ambitions.  Now, if you had got stuffed at home by the bookies favourites for relegation you'd have reason to worry. My sympathies are with the Palace fans.  

thebigfredc posted:

Yes looking forward to September and the start of the season.

I fancy a Dallas v Atlanta super bowl this year.

Ray

Dallas and Atlanta are both in the NFC.   This a Super Bowl that can't and won't happen.   Besides, the Seattle Seahawks are going back to the Super Bowl to redeem themselves vs. New England.  Dallas also lost Ezekiel Elliot for 6 games due to his beating his girlfriend.  

Well, we emain firmly rooted to the bottom of the PL, but at least there were some positives from yesterday's performance (not Arnie's stupidity, which probably cost us the game). Hernandez was great, but Fonte is hopeless and must be dropped. Sort it out, Slav!

Brilliant City result.

Sat there with a mate watching on Sky.He detests Raheem Stirling and for a good 70 mins he took great delight in saying how useless he is.I responded by saying that he sores goals at the end of the day,always puts a full shift in.Pep has definitely improved his game .....my mate...still useless.....10 mins later Stirling scores..... Beautiful.....

What's happening at the Hammers Kev ?

Start of the season thought it was going to be an ok campaign.Early days but something's not right.

Tabby cat posted:

What's happening at the Hammers Kev ?

Start of the season thought it was going to be an ok campaign.Early days but something's not right.

I've no dea Ian, but something is wrong. Why do all these players come to us and then suddenly becomr crap?

I hear Mancini is looking for a job, and we might be able to tempt Rafa away from The Barcodes...

Christopher_M posted:

After Liverpool's 4-0 tonking of Arsenal today, imagine if they they were to sign Virgil van Dijk too.

Was thinking the same thing today. Will help getting Lallana and Clyne back from injuries. Will also help getting Coutinho's situation settled. Salah looks like a solid addition. Definitely the best LFC squad since Suarez left, and a lot of fun to watch. Now if they could only figure out the keeper. Karius was ok, but just - a few too many moments of indecision. Only reason he got a clean sheet today was that Arsenal didn't manage a single shot on goal!

I find myself looking on simultaneously bemused, perplexed, excited, in awe* at LFC at the moment, and paying them far too much interest for a Saints fan. I read of the £40M signing of the man who was called Ox-Champs when he was at Saints. But this is easily eclipsed with the Reds' record signing of Naby Keita for next season.

Meanwhile Southampton FC insist that VvD is not for sale. It's going to be an interesting few days...

 

* and then I pinch myself and tell myself that Saints comprehensively outplayed Liverpool over two legs in last season's League Cup semi final. Luckily Sadio Mané was on international duty at the time.

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