How Good Is The Nova.

Out of the naim family but  my nova replaced an ATC amp and chord Qutest..while it hasn’t   got the forensic ability of the chord atc combo it boogies well and to be honest I’m happy to just leave it on for casual listening as well as a session so it’s getting used more often, also the kids hook into easy and love it..

You’ll find a lot of different opinions regarding the Uniti Nova. A lot of people will tell you probably that the separates will be better, in my experience in my own room, I dare to say that Nova equals the 272/200. No experience with the 272/250.

My conclusion is that the Nova is all I’ll need 😃

I heard the Nova and 272/250 back to back in the Naim dem room driving huge Focals. The Nova was extremely good, the 272/250 was better, but to my ears relatively subtly so and not worth the extra £3,400 cost. Others may value things differently but to my ears, when listening at home, one set would not make me enjoy music significantly more that the other over the long term.

Maybe it's aging ears but I seem to "consume" incremental improvements relatively quickly once I am at a level that lets the music shine through. I did get up 8 boxes at one stage, and each incremental upgrade seemed worth it at the time but I am now very happy with my Nova.

I spent a few hours over the weekend ripping some of my old cds to a slim usb drive, its a doddle on dbpoweramp, you can then plug it in to your Nova (or Atom) and you have the benefits of a Star with the SQ of the Nova, a bit more expensive mind, but if you think you need the cd functionality and arent pushed about been able to play them instantly then it is a viable alternative

I went from 4.5 m  (old style NACA5) to 6.5 m (new style NACA5), same same cable. newer, was purely to give me a bit more to help citing the Nova further away - but the difference the longer cable made was a nice an welcome surprise.

Think i recall Richard saying 7m was the sweet spot, but the official line is 3.5m is good.

I am rather surprised reading some comments on how good the Nova & Star are.  Seems many agree that they sound as good as a 202/200 combo, but as these all in ones are based on Nait 5si technology, that would also mean that the nait 5si integrated also sounds better than a 202/200 combo? I am interested in the Star myself, I would be going from a 202/200DR/HCDR/Napsc. But, as I will never get a chance to compare myself, I am taking my time and reading others experience. 

Got Hi-Fi? posted:

I am rather surprised reading some comments on how good the Nova & Star are.  Seems many agree that they sound as good as a 202/200 combo, but as these all in ones are based on Nait 5si technology, that would also mean that the nait 5si integrated also sounds better than a 202/200 combo? I am interested in the Star myself, I would be going from a 202/200DR/HCDR/Napsc. But, as I will never get a chance to compare myself, I am taking my time and reading others experience. 

I listened to a few threads and then just demo'd at a dealer and made my own mind up.

Was free and enjoyable

Got Hi-Fi? posted:

I am rather surprised reading some comments on how good the Nova & Star are.  Seems many agree that they sound as good as a 202/200 combo, but as these all in ones are based on Nait 5si technology, that would also mean that the nait 5si integrated also sounds better than a 202/200 combo? I am interested in the Star myself, I would be going from a 202/200DR/HCDR/Napsc. But, as I will never get a chance to compare myself, I am taking my time and reading others experience. 

I was not aware the Nova was based on the Nait 5si - if that is the case it is a fairly distant cousin as the Nait5si is 60wpc versus the Nova 80wpc for a start. I think you may be pleasantly surprised (I used to have a 7 box olive system).

Pev posted:
Got Hi-Fi? posted:

I am rather surprised reading some comments on how good the Nova & Star are.  Seems many agree that they sound as good as a 202/200 combo, but as these all in ones are based on Nait 5si technology, that would also mean that the nait 5si integrated also sounds better than a 202/200 combo? I am interested in the Star myself, I would be going from a 202/200DR/HCDR/Napsc. But, as I will never get a chance to compare myself, I am taking my time and reading others experience. 

I was not aware the Nova was based on the Nait 5si - if that is the case it is a fairly distant cousin as the Nait5si is 60wpc versus the Nova 80wpc for a start. I think you may be pleasantly surprised (I used to have a 7 box olive system).

I am not really sure what parts are based on the 5si (pre or power, or how much of either), I only saw that info in reviews, but yes, more power for sure here in the Nova. I just came across another comment from a dealer on another site also confirming this Nova to sound at least as good as a 272/250. It must be one amazing piece of tech. 

I think Naim have only ever said "based on the Nait", others have said it's the 5si (I'm prepared to be proved wrong on this).

Have a read of the HiFi+ review, available via the Naim web site (link below). It sums up quite well what many say about the Nova.

To quote a small piece "an amplifier that seems to think itself a miniaturised version of the Statement",  "inserting tens or even hundreds of thousands more on a system will improve it, but the joy of the Nova is it will not 'better' it" (you need to read the review for the full context of these remarks). See  HiFi+ Review

TallGuy posted:

I think Naim have only ever said "based on the Nait", others have said it's the 5si (I'm prepared to be proved wrong on this).

Have a read of the HiFi+ review, available via the Naim web site (link below). It sums up quite well what many say about the Nova.

To quote a small piece "an amplifier that seems to think itself a miniaturised version of the Statement",  "inserting tens or even hundreds of thousands more on a system will improve it, but the joy of the Nova is it will not 'better' it" (you need to read the review for the full context of these remarks). See  HiFi+ Review

Thanks for sharing, a good read! At least they compare it more to the 200 level than the 250, which to me seems at least more reasonable, although still very impressive for this all-in-one to take on separates.

"itself a miniaturised version of the Statement, or at least a NAC-N272/NAP-200 DR combination"

Gazza posted:

I thought Naim claimed they started with a clean sheet of paper for the Uniti series and they go as far as to say even the Atom, Star and Nova are seperate products, with little in common.

In Connections Simon Matthews said "We used technology taken from our iconic NAIT integrated amplifiers and re-worked it to create the best solution possible for an all-in-one player. "

https://www.naimaudio.com/conn...w-uniti-was-designed

The Nait link in the story went to the XS2 page, but I don't think we should read anything in to that, they had to pick one.

 

Gazza posted:

I thought Naim claimed they started with a clean sheet of paper for the Uniti series and they go as far as to say even the Atom, Star and Nova are seperate products, with little in common.

They did, all built around the new streaming platform but still pulling in developments from elsewhere in the range. As someone else mentioned above. best audition yourself and compare to the separates. The Nova as an integrated solution punches well above its weight and should provide a lot of enjoyment without the need to constantly be worried about the next upgrade fix. 

All IMHO 

Just to give a different option:

I would not other looking at 272/250 but rather listen to NDX2 / SN2 in a couple weeks time. Costs are similar, but the new streamer will be much better than the one in the 272 and with the SN2, you probably will get a great combo. The new streamers are so much better than the old ones.

I used to own a Superuniti which I thought was superb until I upgraded to SN2 with a Chord DAC, which for me was a big step up and about as good as I've heard for digital sources. I also briefly listened to 272 which competed well against Hugo TT for musicality. If the Nova gets anywhere near 250 and 272 then I'd seriously be tempted to audition one.

meissmar posted:

Just to give a different option:

I would not other looking at 272/250 but rather listen to NDX2 / SN2 in a couple weeks time. Costs are similar, but the new streamer will be much better than the one in the 272 and with the SN2, you probably will get a great combo. The new streamers are so much better than the old ones.

Already got my dealer on standby for the NDX2/SN2 demo, the 272/250 I mentioned i compared vs the Nova as a taster whilst picking up some cables.

I do intend comparing all 3 again, Nova, 272/250 and NDX2/SN2, but as you say and I agree new streamers are way better, but always demo if possible.

I am thinking even the NDX2/SN2 vs Nova won't be a big wow, but more a subtle fluffy stuff ( if you strain to listen or concentrate hard enough), unless you start adding XPS and 555 power supplies to the NDX2.

Obsydian posted:

I am thinking even the NDX2/SN2 vs Nova won't be a big wow, but more a subtle fluffy stuff ( if you strain to listen or concentrate hard enough), unless you start adding XPS and 555 power supplies to the NDX2.

If you are having to strain to hear differences, they probably are not that real. I find worthwhile upgrades in performance are obvious and tend to be about increasing the reality, impact and strikingness of the audio and associated music.... it’s quite apparent when you experience it... and it tends to induce silly grins.

Hmm Simon careful we may mirror the ND555 thread, but then there are 20,000 reasons to justify why it is better.

I started posting on the ND555 thread and got side tracked, but I do feel the thread went from wow, to frustration, joy, frustration, analysis, comparisons back and forth, like you say of it isnt instantly causing a grin, then it's probably just boxitis 🙃

mech posted:

I too have the Dynaudio Special 40. Maybe I should swap my Star to Nova first and play it for some months before deciding the 272/250DR route.

Btw, @John L F what speaker cable and length you using?

What don’t you like about the Star? I love mine! I use Dynaudio Focus 260s. Really cannot find fault in my system anywhere right now. 

My understanding was the Star was built off a base of the XS2 and the Nova base begins with the SN2. 

I have to agree about Tidal on the Uniti Star, it just isn’t fun and engaging, I’m starting to think even Spotify sounds better, On my MuSo, Tidal is a noticeable step up over Spotify, but I’m currently thinking about cancelling my Tidal subscription.

Even vinyl on my entry level £200 turntable, through a rega fono mk3 preamp into the Star is more musical than Tidal.

Im just optimistically hoping for FW update soon

I have used Tidal on the Muso, Atom and now Nova, for me it is far superior (not perect but a very, very slight loss in quality vs ripped, but 1000 times more convenience).

Spotify for me was the worst.

All via Ethernet.

Free trial can be had for each and decide for yourself.

Obsydian posted:

I have used Tidal on the Muso, Atom and now Nova, for me it is far superior (not perect but a very, very slight loss in quality vs ripped, but 1000 times more convenience).

Spotify for me was the worst.

All via Ethernet.

Free trial can be had for each and decide for yourself.

Yep I’d echo that, I’m currently Novaless so I’ve resurrected my old Denon M31 and listening to FM, surprisingly good in to decent speakers 

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