MOJAVE: anyone having any issues with new OS upgrade?

Has anyone had any major issues updating to the new Mojave OS? I have read reviews of people losing files and apps and that has made me think twice before going ahead with it. Not sure if Apple is still "beta" testing it  before releasing the final version. Please share your thoughts. Thanks in advance.

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FYI I have a late 2011 15-inch MacBook Pro 500 gb and 8 gbRAM and have been advised that with/after High Sierra my unit is essentially no longer capable of handling Mac 0S releases.  It took 3 days of working with Mac by phone to get High Sierra loaded properly.  My i and o keys are so random I have to cut and paste daily.  Keys and keyboards no longer available.  My unit is obsolete but I will nurse along as is until it (or I) dies.

Hi again, Tony,

If you have a MacBook Pro from mid 2012 or newer, you should be fine with the new OS.

Rather than visit the App Store, where the info is a bit thin on the ground, have a look instead at the Apple page showing Mojave, and under "How to Upgrade" there's a list of the various MacBook vintages which can use the new OS.

I suspect that some of the folks having problems have blindly installed it via the App Store, on older machines.

It's also well worth doing some hardware upgrades on older MacBook Pros.  My own MBP is from 2013 and upping the Ram and fitting a 1TB SSD has totally transformed it.  Crucial offer kits and full instructions for doing the upgrade yourself. It was very straightforward and took me no more than 15 minutes to do the physical stuff, including a long overdue clean out of the internals (make sure you have an antistatic strap fitted when you do this).

I am surprised how quick and easy it was to download, i'm very untechy at configuring putters. Broadband speed is slightly faster than it used to be around here but the local means still remain privative.

MBP seems quicker now, no bad issues to report.

The Dark Mode is nice - i'm hoping it will ease eyestrain : )

Debs

I upgraded my  new-ish iMac with no problems but I have started getting messages saying that my antique 32-bit Excel is incompatible with the 64-bit system, I assume this is the Mojave upgrade.  Excel still works though.

I do find it slightly annoying that apps I close remain in the dock - if I wanted them in the dock I’d put them there - and it doesn’t seem that you can turn this ‘improvement’ off.  Mind you, there are worse things happening in the world 😦

Not as keen on dark mode as others, but you don’t have to have it.

Not sure about performance as the SSD is instant rather than quick, so not easy to tell.

I do though rather fancy the iPad Pro... 👻

Tony

 

 

 

Atom/Iota/Kan Stands posted:

I upgraded my  new-ish iMac with no problems but I have started getting messages saying that my antique 32-bit Excel is incompatible with the 64-bit system, I assume this is the Mojave upgrade.  Excel still works though.

I do find it slightly annoying that apps I close remain in the dock - if I wanted them in the dock I’d put them there - and it doesn’t seem that you can turn this ‘improvement’ off.  Mind you, there are worse things happening in the world 😦

Not as keen on dark mode as others, but you don’t have to have it.

Not sure about performance as the SSD is instant rather than quick, so not easy to tell.

I do though rather fancy the iPad Pro... 👻

Tony

 

 

 

Tony, you can turn the apps that remain in the dock off in System Preferences-Dock-untick Show recent apps in dock.

It bugged me for a while too!

 

Andrew Porter posted:
Atom/Iota/Kan Stands posted:

I upgraded my  new-ish iMac with no problems but I have started getting messages saying that my antique 32-bit Excel is incompatible with the 64-bit system, I assume this is the Mojave upgrade.  Excel still works though.

I do find it slightly annoying that apps I close remain in the dock - if I wanted them in the dock I’d put them there - and it doesn’t seem that you can turn this ‘improvement’ off.  Mind you, there are worse things happening in the world 😦

Not as keen on dark mode as others, but you don’t have to have it.

Not sure about performance as the SSD is instant rather than quick, so not easy to tell.

I do though rather fancy the iPad Pro... 👻

Tony

 

 

 

Tony, you can turn the apps that remain in the dock off in System Preferences-Dock-untick Show recent apps in dock.

It bugged me for a while too!

 

Thanks Andrew!

Andrew Porter posted:
Atom/Iota/Kan Stands posted:

I upgraded my  new-ish iMac with no problems but I have started getting messages saying that my antique 32-bit Excel is incompatible with the 64-bit system, I assume this is the Mojave upgrade.  Excel still works though.

I do find it slightly annoying that apps I close remain in the dock - if I wanted them in the dock I’d put them there - and it doesn’t seem that you can turn this ‘improvement’ off.  Mind you, there are worse things happening in the world 😦

Not as keen on dark mode as others, but you don’t have to have it.

Not sure about performance as the SSD is instant rather than quick, so not easy to tell.

I do though rather fancy the iPad Pro... 👻

Tony

 

 

 

Tony, you can turn the apps that remain in the dock off in System Preferences-Dock-untick Show recent apps in dock.

It bugged me for a while too!

 

You learn something everyday thanks for that tip.

Well, I did the upgrade a few days ago, and now my Mail Account (using the Mac supplied one) has decided to not download any new emails.  Checked with BT online and my mail is certainly there on their website, but Mail isn't downloading it.   Looked up solutions on the net, and deleted the account from mail, but now it won't log back into it!

Have tried 2 approaches so far  

1. Add other : entered my email address and pw, but just get an hourglass 

2. Set a BT Yahoo account (can still do this, apparently!) accepted my details.  The account appears in Mail, but no mail at all (old or new downloaded.

Well, looks like I'll have to do a bit of head scratching to get at my email again, or just give up and access it via the BT website.

I've tried every trick I can think of : deleting account/ reboot/ add account ; clearing the app saved data files etc - although I can't seem to find any of the 'envelopes' in Finder Library.  (Yes, I did use the 'search function' while in the Library).  Nothing seems to work.

So for the moment I'm stuck with accessing my BT mail using the web browser interface, which is a real PITA as you have to type in your password EVERY time.

I went through this nonsense before when I moved to High Sierra.  Perhaps it's time to give up on Apple Mail and use a third party email client, preferably free, although I might give Airmail 3 some consideration.  (sigh)

I'm receiving emails okay, but just noticed i can't send emails (?)

"Trying to log in to the SMTP account failed. Verify that the username and password are correct"

Trying to send responds with an annoying dropdown window requesting a password, but the only passwords i have don't work.

However, if i change my username to one of my alter email address it sends okay, just doesn't work on the default email address.

Not sure if this hiccup was caused by downloading Mojave or a BT issue (?)

naim_nymph posted:

I'm receiving emails okay, but just noticed i can't send emails (?)

"Trying to log in to the SMTP account failed. Verify that the username and password are correct"

Trying to send responds with an annoying dropdown window requesting a password, but the only passwords i have don't work.

However, if i change my username to one of my alter email address it sends okay, just doesn't work on the default email address.

Not sure if this hiccup was caused by downloading Mojave or a BT issue (?)

My advice would be to never use either an OS-based local mail client nor an e-mail service provided by your ISP. Just use a web-based email, like Gmail or Outlook. Works everywhere, and no updating or stuffing around when you change OS or ISP. (My parents insist on using their ISP email, so their email address changes every few years. Who needs that?)

Yes, but the web-based ones I have looked at seem to need to have the password inserted manually every time you login to look at your mail.  Whatever email client I use has to work with BTinternet accounts, because I am NOT going to go through the faff of changing, and then having to tell everyone and all the websites I use (including this one!) what my new address is.

The issue i had has resolved itself, i can send emails okay again. 

My default BT email addy [plus a couple of alter email addies] have remained the same for past 15 years.

So perhaps false alarm on a Mojave download problem here.

Meanwhile i have a couple of new icons:

Siri - voice activation that i don't feel a need for so have not enabled it

Apple News -  let's hope it's all golden delicious and nothing crabby ; )

I also noticed those new icons, Debs. Both will be redundant for me.  Can't say I've been impressed by Siri so far.  I use it to set a timer on my iPhone when cooking but for more sophisticated stuff it rarely produces anything useful.  I've found it utterly hopeless when it comes to answering footie questions. 

Re: the BT emails, I had a similar problem a few weeks ago whilst travelling - couldn't access emails using the mail app on my iphone although I could sign in to BT web mail. After returning home Mail worked on my Mac without problem, and on the iphone. Never did find out the problem but I mention it as I suspect it isn't a problem with Mojave - I updated a couple of weeks ago (Mac Retina 5k late 2014) - no problems at all and easy to instal -  just took a while. Hasn't caused problems with Mail on either the Mac or my iphone.

Stephen packer posted:

I was going to say 'no problems' but I'm having a few issues with Chrome under Mojave- it won't render the BBC website correctly and it's also not rendering parts of eBay (purchase issue and messages)

Not had any problems with ebay not used the BBC website as yet.

Well, this morning it 'threw a wobbler'.  Tried to start up Safari, only to get the message demanding I enter the login Keychain password.  I sighed, went into the Keychain access app, but couldn't find it.  So tried to fire up Keeper (a program where I keep passwords etc), and then the damn machine froze.  Finished up doing a forced shutdown (pressed and held power switch) on my iMac, then everything was working again.

Same thing happened previously when I let it upgrade to High Sierra.  That time I eventually had to set up a new Keychain, as I couldn't remember the password (and still don't know my current one!)  I'll probably have to do the same thing again, which is a pain as all my passwords etc will have to be re-entered.

I think that different versions of MacOS upgrades are just icing on the cake, mainly the changes are just gimmicks. The real engine (kernel) is more or less really the same, I hardly  notice any improvement except that the disk format is APFS, which is really significant.

No  - get a Metal compatible Graphics card, I bought one from Create.Pro. The Mac Pro was also supplied by them 30 months ago fully refurbed and either the main board was a new one or one that had been flashed to be as good as the last Silver Tower Mac Pro.

 

AS you are a business the upgrade will be cheaper for as you can "charge " it to the business

I know I need to upgrade the graphics card to make it metal compatible Derek, that was my point. Just surprised that's all. My card failed 4 months ago and I bought a second-hand ATI Radeon 5870 for £140. I'm not an expert on these matters, so wanted to put the same card back in to ensure it worked perfectly as it always has done.

What card can I upgrade to that will perform exactly the same (or most likely better). When using 3rd party cards, don't you lose something displaying at the start-up?

I've been waiting for the new Mac Pro to be available, but this wait could go on forever. I don't want to spend ridiculous amounts on a card for this Mac, as it's getting on a bit now.

 

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