ND555

Rumour has it there will be three power supplies required. One for the dedicated tablet which hosts the new app. They will all only work on individual mains looms done in SuperLumina mains cable (also to be announced rumour has it) into dedicated SuperLumina mains power boards. This all has to installed by a certified Naim installer from England. (Not included in the price). The new components also require suspension in the new SuperFraim. So rumour has it.  

 

It needs three supplies: one for the pure Analogue, one for the pure Digital and one for the internal D to A transition circuits.

Then all will be good and everyone happy.

...and it needs to be powered off one supply to get people hooked and begin to crave the upgrade to two then three 555PS - then the special 555NDPS supply.

DB.

Gavin L posted:

If the cost is not barrier enough, I have to agree that the number of boxes might be the final barrier.   If it was 3 boxes, then it really becomes hard to also run a CD555, which would really be a big shame, given the investment many might have in the humble CD.  (Yes, I know they could all be transferred to FLAC or similar, but would be a shame).

If it is really that phenomenal I could get past the cost barrier, but not the box barrier. There is zero chance I would buy a 3 box streamer, absolutely zero. It isn't like their other streamers are not quite good and that the Linn KDS isn't one of the best streamers out and only requires one box. I hope they rethink their strategy, even for those that can afford the best, the aesthetics and practicality are a absolutely huge consideration. It has to be able to fit comfortably in your listening room or it won't fly.

Check the Naim web.....nd555; ndx2 and ND5XS2 all being launched tbd.....their most powerful streamers to date in 500 series finish, classic finish and then xs series finish! Something for everyone. Need a few of you at the Bristol show to sit on Phil until he spills more beans....will need a posse though.

Gazza posted:

Check the Naim web.....nd555; ndx2 and ND5XS2 all being launched tbd.....their most powerful streamers to date in 500 series finish, classic finish and then xs series finish! Something for everyone.

Interesting: the ND555 is stated as having LDVS LVDS* audio output... suggesting perhaps a new DAC with LDVS LVDS input is possibly in the pipeline too.

*LVDS is (at least with other manufacturers) a form of i2s for connecting a streamer / transport to a DAC.

Gazza posted:

Not clear what LDVS does? What is so significant, must be new DACs as the old ones are no longer made......but does LDVS give a Chord Dave..like volume control?

I may be misunderstanding Naims use, but to me LVDS (sorry got my acronym muddled) is i2s over medium distance.  So between a streamer and a DAC for example.

Gazza - it's just a way of transferring digital data at high speed and due to the differential signalling it produces a very low radiated field. If Naim are using it for a proprietary digital output then it would allow them to separate data and clock signals. 

Sloop John B posted:

Conspiracy theorist that I am I’m wondering whether that is a mock up photo we have been given?

It’s title is interesting - NaimForumImage-ND555-TLD- 

I can’t help thinking if I gave one of my younger children pictures of a few pices  of Naim kit and asked them to come up with cut and paste “new product” that they wouldn’t come up with something like this. The new Uniti  range looks so different, this looks so 2004. As someone commented it’s like a HDX without the disc loader.

Hard to think this is the brave new world......

 

.sjb

 

So, TW wasn't 'lying', then.

Alba1320 posted:
Sloop John B posted:

Conspiracy theorist that I am I’m wondering whether that is a mock up photo we have been given?

It’s title is interesting - NaimForumImage-ND555-TLD- 

I can’t help thinking if I gave one of my younger children pictures of a few pices  of Naim kit and asked them to come up with cut and paste “new product” that they wouldn’t come up with something like this. The new Uniti  range looks so different, this looks so 2004. As someone commented it’s like a HDX without the disc loader.

Hard to think this is the brave new world......

 

.sjb

 

So, TW wasn't 'lying', then.

I’ll get my coat.......

.sjb

Richieroo posted:

I think that the new ND555 streamer - will be feature rich roon, more resolution formats etc , but I still think it is going to have a tough time improving meaningfully on the NDS sonically. The psu and analogue circuits - are super critical regarding noise - and their inference on the sound. When you play a really good 44.1 flac on the NDS it can sound staggering - depending on the production and original mastering - so huge sample rates are not the whole story. I would think the whole psu structure would need to change - you almost need a 2 box streamer one section for digital and one for analogue .... maybe thats the Statement Streamer to come!

Richieeroo,

it almost sounds you hope the ND555 will not sound better than the NDS - do you own one?

Bert posted:
Richieroo posted:

I think that the new ND555 streamer - will be feature rich roon, more resolution formats etc , but I still think it is going to have a tough time improving meaningfully on the NDS sonically. The psu and analogue circuits - are super critical regarding noise - and their inference on the sound. When you play a really good 44.1 flac on the NDS it can sound staggering - depending on the production and original mastering - so huge sample rates are not the whole story. I would think the whole psu structure would need to change - you almost need a 2 box streamer one section for digital and one for analogue .... maybe thats the Statement Streamer to come!

Richieeroo,

it almost sounds you hope the ND555 will not sound better than the NDS - do you own one?

I think the ND555 will sound better than the NDS , how much better is hard to say ! 

 

Jonas Olofsson posted:

It will. I’m 100% sure Naim wouldn’t release it otherwise. It’s not in their genes to do something like that. 

//Jonas

Mmm... I'm not so sure. For instance, I was never convinced that the CDS2 (which I had) could hold a candle to the original CDS.

DUPREE posted:
Gavin L posted:

If the cost is not barrier enough, I have to agree that the number of boxes might be the final barrier.   If it was 3 boxes, then it really becomes hard to also run a CD555, which would really be a big shame, given the investment many might have in the humble CD.  (Yes, I know they could all be transferred to FLAC or similar, but would be a shame).

If it is really that phenomenal I could get past the cost barrier, but not the box barrier. There is zero chance I would buy a 3 box streamer, absolutely zero. It isn't like their other streamers are not quite good and that the Linn KDS isn't one of the best streamers out and only requires one box. I hope they rethink their strategy, even for those that can afford the best, the aesthetics and practicality are a absolutely huge consideration. It has to be able to fit comfortably in your listening room or it won't fly.

Agreed whole heartedly with the box count.  I am so over that.  Thankfully my 552/500 setup is limited to 4 boxes.  The idea of a three or four box count source is not at all appealing to me.  A similar reason that I moved to a Urika from SuperLine/SuperCap.  Two external boxes to - none.

After my CD555 I gave up waiting for Naim and moved onto the Linn KDS/1 (I skipped the initial version) - as many others here have done.

All one single box - and the ability to easily upgrade  from KDS/1>2>3>4 as technical innovation and improvements have come along these past 10 years.  Each and every upgrade logistically and economically feasible.  Unfortunately black boxes are not upgradeable  - and I am not talking via power supplies - but rather technical innovations as and when they happen.  One needs to bin the black box and start over again.  I am tired of doing that and am happy with the ability to keep my DS and LP12 current in a very easy and hassle free manner.

With that said no doubt the new range will sound great and I am looking to forward to hearing what they have come up with.  I am sure it will once again take the position of being class leading and innovating.

Likes (1)
meni48
×
×
×
×