Oasis in Hi Fi?

I have discovered the iTunes podcast and have only today first enjoyed the BBC Desert Island Discs.   I feel as if I have crossed a vista from Red State America!  

I listened today on a long drive through the Delta and discovered Oasis.    I further read that most of their recordings sound compressed and lo-fii.   What do you Oasis fans recommend for a Naim-worthy listen?  I will probably buy the CD or the vinyl, but I don't need more than one or two.  

Thanks for the recommendation. 

Original Post

For me without any hesitation their best album is (What's the Story) Morning Glory?

However, SQ wise I would say what you've read is correct.

Many years ago, I took an Oasis CD along with a few other CD's for a dealer demo of some Denon separates. The dealer took one look and said something along the lines of "we won't bother with that one as the recording is c**p."

I'm not sure if there are any decently recorded versions to be had.

Still a great album though.

ATB,

Mike

 I'm no great fan, but they've created some nice choons over the years.  All the albums sound awful, massively compressed, and disappointing.  That's from a digital perspective though, perhaps vinyl fairs better, I wouldn't know.  You're probably better off listening to some the live stuff on youtube.  Sorry.

Skip posted:

... What do you Oasis fans recommend for a Naim-worthy listen? ...

Thanks for the recommendation. 

Hi Skip,

Oasis were a fantastic band that couldn’t care less about sound quality as the brothers were too stoned on drugs ‘n alcohol to care about such niceties. They were arch proponents of the loudness wars.

First and foremost, I recommend playing at a low volume. Oasis tracks were mixed for uber max volume recording levels, so the recording quality is consistently nasty.

Second, buy the cd, as it’s cheaper than the lp. There is no sonic advantage to the lp, just the extra cost of the vinyl album and the wear on your expensive stylus.

Third, go for the first album, What’s the story (morning glory). Oasis recorded their first 3 albums worth of music in one spell before they became famous. The best tracks went on the first album, the middling ones on the second album and the rubbish ones on the third album. Naturally, muggins here has all three!

Despite all of the above, What’s the Story is truly a great album, though not for its fidelity. It may even sound best in mp3 format. I kid you not!

If you are interested in something more recent, Noel Gallagher’s High Flying Birds is releasing some great music.

Best regards,

FT

I generally eschew heavy compression and loudness mastering, but to me there are a handful of quality bands out there for which it works and fits their sonic signature. You've discovered Oasis. I'd also put Blur, Blink 182, Red Hot Chili Peppers, and Green Day into that group. No denying the tuneful hooks and high energy present in their recordings.

The first 2 albums and possibly the master plan are worth exploring and after that then they just  got stuck in a rut. I did see them live once and the were pathetic - Liam threatened to fight someone in the crowd and stormed off stage.....

My father in law refers to them as a Beatles tribute bad.

Gary

 

Skip, 

A timely post! Funnily enough the other day I had an Oasis session after finally getting around to watching the Supersonic documentary (worth watching) and played most of their albums.

Agree with the comments expressed. Sound quality on the early albums is certainly ropey, although in compensation, the first two have an almost raw infectious energy about them that still makes them compelling.

Favs… Definitely Maybe, What’s The Story Morning Glory, The Masterplan and of the later albums I think Don’t Believe The Truth is a good solid album that saw them back on form and doesn’t get the praise it deserves.

Although of late, I’m preferring Noel Gallagher’s solo efforts as High Flying Birds, especially the latest Who Sold The Moon. Released in 24-bit – 44.10 kHz HD too.

Skip, Forgot - if you like the Desert Island Discs podcast (who doesn't!) then also check out another Radio4 show & podcast called Mastertapes presented by John Wilson. For each programme the host invites a musician to discuss the influences of a key album in their career - all in front of a small invited audience and in some cases playing live, then finally answering questions. Its a little hidden gem of a show and well worth a listen.

Yetizone posted:

Skip, Forgot - if you like the Desert Island Discs podcast (who doesn't!) then also check out another Radio4 show & podcast called Mastertapes presented by John Wilson. For each programme the host invites a musician to discuss the influences of a key album in their career - all in front of a small invited audience and in some cases playing live, then finally answering questions. Its a little hidden gem of a show and well worth a listen.

Thanks.   Subscribed.   BBC4 is an upgrade from NPR for sure.

As  stated the sound quality is iffy on cd .This is how they wanted it to sound by all account,but with some of the albums recorded at abbey road you would think that they could sound better, maybe they wanted a live sound, loud and distorted. Strange that years ago i was at a Naim night demo and they used the  Oasis song half the world away  and that sounded very good For me the first album is the best, but masterplan with b sides and oddies is a very good. 

ewemon posted:

The only album of there's I liked was Definitely Maybe and the best version I have heard was the very first mastering on Creation. Eveything after that was c**p and almost.unlistenable 

Indeed, Ewe. I met them just before they went touring Japan in 1993 and was given the DM CD  and copy of the Columbia 12in EP- which was limited to 510 copies. Noel was actually a really nice guy. His brother on the other hand...

do not  think there is any other cds from around the world that are a upgrade to be honest, i  think there is a couple of cds that were sacds but by all accounts were not very good.The only cds that i heard praised  were the singles mixes ,they were meant to sound better but i have not heard them first hand tbo.

Tony2011 posted:
ewemon posted:

The only album of there's I liked was Definitely Maybe and the best version I have heard was the very first mastering on Creation. Eveything after that was c**p and almost.unlistenable 

Indeed, Ewe. I met them just before they went touring Japan in 1993 and was given the DM CD  and copy of the Columbia 12in EP- which was limited to 510 copies. Noel was actually a really nice guy. His brother on the other hand...

Oasis would have been a complete non entity without Liam because although he isn't a bad song writer Noel has all the Charisma of a wet fish.

keith waring posted:

do not  think there is any other cds from around the world that are a upgrade to be honest, i  think there is a couple of cds that were sacds but by all accounts were not very good.The only cds that i heard praised  were the singles mixes ,they were meant to sound better but i have not heard them first hand tbo.

Thanks Keith. I pretty much assumed this would be the case in terms of the CD albums but thought I'd ask. Would be good to have a decent sounding version of Definitely Maybe and Whats The Story Morning Glory - never did consider buying the single CDs at the time! If the HD version WTSMG ever hits the sale racks of Qobuz & Co then I may plunge, but at the mo have other new releases vying for the disposable.

At that time 93-97 the pubs were filled with young uns just loving those Oasis songs played loud with a bothersome singalong.

Those other pubs that had a slightly more older and discerning drinker had this mostly playing as a deterrent..

https://img.discogs.com/b4NqOwno68PMTi5Iw_hWAqmsfcM=/fit-in/600x538/filters:strip_icc[):format[jpeg):mode_rgb[):quality[90)/discogs-images/R-1582795-1479475938-1259.jpeg.jpg

Paul Weller. Wild wood.

This from the Mod father showed those other scruffy mop heads how Brit pop should sound. Great tunes and awesome production.

Two great album that I bought in every format available to be disapointed

They sound great with my discman then with iPod 

they are not SL speaker cable material for sure

no remaster corrected it

still I play them a lot, they don’t do albums like that anymore...

 

 

Skip - I know I’m very late to this thread, but, I grew up with Oasis music and am an avid fan. Sad to hear it sounds bad on a 500 series, but maybe that will save me $$ in the future as I’m at 282 level, maybe no need to go further  

Anyhow, the point of my post ? If you are interested in delving a bit further, get the “Familiar To Millions” live double CD. This in my opinion is how to hear them best, get the full live feeling, and the band fully in their stride, the best example of Oasis that I have heard.

 

Just arrived after a month in media mail never land.    Best Oasis tip I have had.  Truly outstanding.

My wife scolded me for playing it loud at home last night.   I think this one may be the one to crank it up.   She hates it so much on our home system, it must be great and it is destined for the car, at least temporarily.

Excellent tip.  Thank you all.

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