Prince Harry's Wedding

Bruce Woodhouse posted:

I have been trying to get my head around my ambivalence, or rather mild hostility to this lovely scenic pageant in the sunshine.

I have concluded it was a conjunction of three of my least favourite things. Royalty, Religious establishment, and the Military.

All of which seem to share hypocrisy, inequality, elitism, a failure to modernise and...well you get my drift.

I guess Harry and his brother at least had relatively ‘real’ military careers (unlike the previous generation) but did they have to appear in uniform?

I am more than ever a passive republican.  I do not wish to burn down the Palace or behead the Queen but I think I would be quite happy if they all just drifted off or at the very least downsized in every possible way; preferably before Charles gets to do or say more stupid things.

I genuinely hope the couple enjoyed everything about their day, after all I paid for some of it. Do I get a slice of the cake?

Bruce

I think the income from the Crown Estates more or less balances the Civil List. So the taxpayer isn’t put to any great expense, if any.

The security cost for today will probably be bourne by the taxpayer. I think Thames Valley Police and others have indicated c. £6.7m which averages out at about 10p per head of the U.K. population.

Watching Charles and Co squirming whilst a black preacher did his thing  was quite enjoyable especially the reference to the slave trade (although a Roman Catholic Irish priest would have been better) and all those millionaire celebrity 'commoners' squashed together in the cheap seats  like that human Spitting Image puppet Nicholas Soames being forced to sit next to Posh 'n' Becks was also worth a look.

However I could quite easily live without all of them and everything they stand for.  No human being because of an acccident of birth should 'rule' over or even be considered 'better' than any other as far as I'm concerned it is outdated and irrelevant in a modern society.                                                                                                             

Everyone is entitled to their own opinions and the expression of same.  But I can only read some comments in this thread and the resulting way some commenters are representing themselves as truly disgusting, and severely disappointing when taken in light of how I had apparently mistakenly viewed some of these contributors in the past.  My failing I am sure.

Though I am republican, I do think it was a nice and very inclusive marriage. By inclusive I mean that it reflects the diversity as present in society. Being organist, I don't like sermons, but this guy was fantastic. Pretty cool and full of courage to show the royal family that mirror and giving them a message of hope. I had to think of the funeral of lady Di.

Enjoyed Rutter. The descending bass was a thing I did not notice before in that blessing.

Don Atkinson posted:
Bruce Woodhouse posted:

I have been trying to get my head around my ambivalence, or rather mild hostility to this lovely scenic pageant in the sunshine.

I have concluded it was a conjunction of three of my least favourite things. Royalty, Religious establishment, and the Military.

All of which seem to share hypocrisy, inequality, elitism, a failure to modernise and...well you get my drift.

I guess Harry and his brother at least had relatively ‘real’ military careers (unlike the previous generation) but did they have to appear in uniform?

I am more than ever a passive republican.  I do not wish to burn down the Palace or behead the Queen but I think I would be quite happy if they all just drifted off or at the very least downsized in every possible way; preferably before Charles gets to do or say more stupid things.

I genuinely hope the couple enjoyed everything about their day, after all I paid for some of it. Do I get a slice of the cake?

Bruce

I think the income from the Crown Estates more or less balances the Civil List. So the taxpayer isn’t put to any great expense, if any.

The security cost for today will probably be bourne by the taxpayer. I think Thames Valley Police and others have indicated c. £6.7m which averages out at about 10p per head of the U.K. population.

Ooopps................the Mail on Sunday put the cost of security at £30m. So, assuming this will be funded from the public purse, that's more like 50p per head.

I still don't feel cheated or upset in anyway whatsoever. It was a good day.

From my perspective, in my native outpost in the northwestern US, I admire the grace and evenness of duty delivered by the Queen and her immediate family.  I would not be so good natured as they seem to be, on the whole, and across so many years.  

With some notable exceptions, oligarchs in North America generally get off easy when it comes to national service.

Bless the newlyweds.  Since we are all watching, may they find joy in setting a good example, and helping others, according to their gifts (and may I do likewise, though few are watching me.)

Nick

 

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