Uniti 2.6.1

I suspect it's in the thread I started about March/April firmware but could someone who's on 2.6 before updating check the DSP version in the Naim app.

This is listed in the app Settings > About > More and is 1.0.2 for 2.3 (8574).  It's definitely different for 2.6, so if it's the same as that in 2.6.1 I suspect no significant sonic change but who knows!

Alley Cat posted:

I suspect it's in the thread I started about March/April firmware but could someone who's on 2.6 before updating check the DSP version in the Naim app.

This is listed in the app Settings > About > More and is 1.0.2 for 2.3 (8574).  It's definitely different for 2.6, so if it's the same as that in 2.6.1 I suspect no significant sonic change but who knows!

Ok, so from page 2 of other thread, 2.6 on Atom and Nova had DSP 1.255.59.

Obsydian posted:

DSP version is 1.0.28.0 using firmware 2.6.2134 ???

That's very interesting, I seem to have firmware 2.6.1(9794) and as you say DSP 1.0.28. 

Now I need to shut the family up to have a listen, and may have to do a U turn on allowing the kids to play iPad/Nintendo to get them out of the way and up to their rooms!

Obsydian posted:

Sorry via the Nova, firmware is 2.6.1.9794 and DSP 1.0.28.0, my prior downgrade DSP was 1.0.2.0 and 2.6 was 1.255.59.0

Same here on the Atom, not hearing anything scary so far but annoyingly in my enthusiasm to upgrade I forgot to have a listen to a few favourite tracks first as a comparison 

Hmm, quick impression is that it's like 2.6 sonically.

Just playing an album on vinyl that blew me away this afternoon with rich/warm bass and lovely sounding instrument timbre the first time I heard it on LP today vs only via a FLAC stream previously.  It was sumptuous a few hours ago, from the first track post update I'm afraid I sense it's just harsh and fatiguing and for the music I could take it or leave it, oddly (or not perhaps) sounds more like the streamed FLAC.

SimonPeterArnold posted:

I don't think they will roll back the DSP,  we have to lump it or leave it, this will be bug fixes, hopefully the one I pointed out to support is sorted.

It may well be that this release was not intended to change anything sonically despite the different DSP version - perhaps it's little different to the 2.6 DSP .

Always thought that DSP going from 1.02 to 1.255.59.0 was an odd progression especially if latest is 1.0.28.

I managed to get an hour's listening, going from 2.3.1 to 2.6.1.

I guess firstly Naim will have focus on 2.6, rather than starting from 2.3.1, also no mentioned of DSP fixes only bug fixes in the changelog.

Anyway jumping from 2.3.1 to 2.6.1, I echo Alley Cat thoughts as in more of 2.6.

To me the sound is now odd and unbalanced, heavy bass, hope end sparkle, but a warm washed out midrange. Imagine at toe tapping dealer demo this initially appeals.

I do hope this is an interim bug fix and the DSP to follow. 

If not I really think I have reached the end of the Naim road, 2.3.1 is great for me, but without support, not even Chromecast then it's a dead duck.

I went back to 2.3 briefly out of curiosity, doesn’t do much for me tbh, to my ears it seems a tad harsh and congested in comparison, back on latest 2.6.1 now and I find it preferable, also don’t think I’m hearing any discernible difference from previous 2.6

Obsydian posted:

I managed to get an hour's listening, going from 2.3.1 to 2.6.1.

I guess firstly Naim will have focus on 2.6, rather than starting from 2.3.1, also no mentioned of DSP fixes only bug fixes in the changelog.

Anyway jumping from 2.3.1 to 2.6.1, I echo Alley Cat thoughts as in more of 2.6.

To me the sound is now odd and unbalanced, heavy bass, hope end sparkle, but a warm washed out midrange. Imagine at toe tapping dealer demo this initially appeals.

I do hope this is an interim bug fix and the DSP to follow. 

If not I really think I have reached the end of the Naim road, 2.3.1 is great for me, but without support, not even Chromecast then it's a dead duck.

Are you not reverting to 2.3 (8376) - I thought 2.3.1 was when we thought it went bad?

Chromecast is still working for me on 2.3, is it not for you?

Kudos to Naim for sorting the issues with the original 2.6 so quickly (for me the disappearance of cover art). In terms of SQ both 2.6 & 2.61 are, in my setup, infinitely superior to 2.3.

Phil Harris responded to my issues promptly and with total accuracy. Good service should be acknowledged as swiftly as the problems which a few carp on about.

 

I’ve also updated my Star to 2.6.1, with a hope of some reward, however like most I don’t see much difference compared to 2.6

However - Playing around in the App I stumbled across the Audio Settings Screen, the top bar apears to be a Maximum Volume Limit, mine was at 85 out of 100.

I increased it to 100 and noticed an immediate increase in both volume and the sound quality, despite only listening at 35 on the system.

It clearly isn’t a max volume limit, it seems to throttle the entire output regardless of what volume your listening at.

Can anyone else try this, I’ve never changed this setting before, I don’t profess to be an Audiophile but I’m now enjoying my music again.

Anavrin posted:

I’ve also updated my Star to 2.6.1, with a hope of some reward, however like most I don’t see much difference compared to 2.6

However - Playing around in the App I stumbled across the Audio Settings Screen, the top bar apears to be a Maximum Volume Limit, mine was at 85 out of 100.

I increased it to 100 and noticed an immediate increase in both volume and the sound quality, despite only listening at 35 on the system.

It clearly isn’t a max volume limit, it seems to throttle the entire output regardless of what volume your listening at.

Can anyone else try this, I’ve never changed this setting before, I don’t profess to be an Audiophile but I’m now enjoying my music again.

This has been noted before by others who have increased the max. to 100. Naim assure us that there is no difference, and that any perceived improvement might be down to the simple fact that louder sounds better. 

Obsydian posted:

So not much feed back at the moment or are people not bothering or seeing it as purely a bug not DSP change?

I suspect the majority never noticed the issues the firmware update addresses in the first place, those that did will be happy if those issues are fixed which is nice for them, but if a post above is anything to go by, those of us who dislike the newer sound are 'carping on about it' and presumably many of the 'I'm alright Jack' brigade have little interest.

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