Huge posted:analogmusic posted:
But N.I.P. is a moving target.
The Lavender is supplied with the CD5Si all the way to the NDS. Do they all have the same N.I.P.?
The DIN to XLR is supplied with the 300 and the 500 (and the same construction is used for the 250, just with 1 wire not connected), do these all have the same N.I.P.?
All systems are a balance of sound that's an engineering compromise with component altering the sound in a different way, and this applies to Naim as much as any other manufacturer. So, if N.I.P. covers a range of balances, and another cable shifts that balance a little, but still stays within the bounding limits of one Naim system or another, is that not still N.I.P.?
No, it is not. Please read the comments I posted above about loss of tension and leading edge, and a certain softness to the sound. It is why I understand that Naim never made a Hi-line DIN/XLR.
What about changing speakers? They have such a dramatic effect on the balance of the sound; surely to remain with the limits of N.I.P. we must use Naim speakers, otherwise we'll be completely outside of the limits of N.I.P.. If we can change speakers to those of another manufacturer and remain within N.I.P. than surely we can change to a different manufacturer's CD player (or amp... or cables!).
that's debatable, some speakers do in fact cloak and choke the Naim intended performance.
P.S. I understand the principle, I just think your expression of your approach is far too dogmatic.
Maybe, some things like speakers are debatable, some issues like PSU are not.
There's a very good reason for that, and as I said, what I want is to hear what Salisbury designed so carefully. Others may like another sound.
to be clear I am talking about a Naim amplifier as a component. Not a source or a speaker.
In case it is pointed out I use Chord DAC and Dynaudio speakers, I would say agree, it is a dilution of the Naim intended performance. But that's ok with me, as I like the performance of Chord DACs and Dynaudio speakers.
Anyway - where is the Naim turntable - before the appearance of Naim CD players?
And also most of the Naim sound comes from the amplifier, that's what I hear. My opinion.
Let me try a simpler paradigm...
If, hypothetically speaking, someone, for instance, found a cable with characteristics precisely in between the standard N.I.P. black cable, and the (presumably also N.I.P.) Super Lumina cable, would that not also be N.I.P.?
if it has the same electric properties of the standard Naim DIN/XLR - (capacitance, inductance, resistance, diameter of the cores), sure why not?
But I am not an electronics engineer, and it isn't a good use of my time to try to re-invent the Naim DIN/XLR cable
Also I tried to make a RCA to DIN cable of my own using a Canare cable, and it sounded nothing like the Naim standard RCA to DIN, at which point I just gave up.
There are surely better things to do in life than second guess 40 years of Naim engineering?