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Posted by: Kevin Hughes on 31 July 2000

I am not impressed with the new software (polite opinion ). This software is totaly round earth, looks nice but fails to do the basic job properly.

Can we have an uncensored part please?

What happens if you chose the "under 16" option?

Tony & Mike, who did you sleep with to ge to full member (oh err etc..) status.

Kevin.

PS still no spell checker either, just pants.

Posted on: 07 August 2000 by Paul Stephenson
Andy...
1. Do Naim intend keeping the forum software as it is now?

WE ARE GOING TO DO EVERYTHING POSSIBLE TO CHANGE THE SET UP.

2) If changing, what sort of timescale can we expect things to change over?

NO IDEA, FIRST WE WILL TRY TO IMPROVE THIS SITE, IF NOT, WE CAN DECIDE WHAT OTHER FORUMS ARE AVAILABLE AND IF NOTHING IS SUITABLE, DO WE STILL WANT A FORUM IF YOU DO NOT LIKE IT?

3) If changing, what user features will be on the requirements list for any new implementation? [hint: threading and expanding new messages appear to be the biggest gripes...]

ALL THE ONES WE ALL KNOW ABOUT.


Posted on: 07 August 2000 by Trevor Warwick
quote:
DO WE STILL WANT A FORUM IF YOU DO NOT LIKE IT?

I, for one, would still want to have the forum available, even in its current state (you should still try to improve the usability though).

Trevor

Posted on: 07 August 2000 by Jonathan Gorse
Paul,

Welcome back from holiday - hope you managed to get away from all this at least some of the time.

Whatever you do don't kill the forum. It may be a state right now but I suspect they'd be marching on Salisbury and picketing the Hammersmith show if you even hinted at getting rid of it altogether!

I have said it before and it bears repeating this is the finest dammned bit of the internet to some of us and the best thing we can all do is provide suggestions and assistance where possible to you to ensure that the forum continues to function as Julian would have wanted. I always feel that his spirit lives on through this forum.

I understand Vuk is trying to come up with a solution and I'm sure you guys are too. Let's give people a chance.

Can I add 'smaller font' to the wish-list - each message seems to fill a page at the moment.

Jonathan

Posted on: 07 August 2000 by Andy S
quote:
WE ARE GOING TO DO EVERYTHING POSSIBLE TO CHANGE THE SET UP.

Excellent. I'll stick with it for the moment. Just knowing that someone is looking into it helps allay fears.

quote:
NO IDEA, FIRST WE WILL TRY TO IMPROVE THIS SITE, IF NOT, WE CAN DECIDE WHAT OTHER FORUMS ARE AVAILABLE AND IF NOTHING IS SUITABLE, DO WE STILL WANT A FORUM IF YOU DO NOT LIKE IT?

I think you should still keep the forum BUT I think it's usefulness will be diminished if people "don't like it".

Andy

Posted on: 07 August 2000 by bob atherton

"I have said it before and it bears repeating this is the finest dammned bit of the internet to some of us and the best thing we can all do is provide suggestions and assistance where possible to you to ensure that the forum continues to function as Julian would have wanted. I always feel that his spirit lives on through this forum."

Jonathan,

Extremely well put, I really could not agree more. I am tempted to post your eloquent paragraph on every current thread, but that is not good netiquette, so I won't.

Bob

Posted on: 08 August 2000 by Nic Peeling
Paul says
quote:
AND IF NOTHING IS SUITABLE, DO WE STILL WANT A FORUM IF YOU DO NOT LIKE IT?

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Can I put the question back to you - do Naim value the forum they have created? I would have thought the Naim forum is a marketing vehicle most Hi-Fi manufacturers would kill for, and here you are as MD of the company openly suggesting that you might consider killing it. Your customers are a passionate, stroppy lot, and because they care about their music, their Hi-Fi and their forum, they cut up rough when they feel Naim is letting them down through (say) heavy handed censorship or inferior software to run the forum. You have created something unique in the forum, but you can never fully control it and it will take a non-trivial effort on your part to take care of it. If you are not happy with that responsibility I suggest you kill it rather than let it deteriorate to the point where we no longer want to contribute.

Nic P

Posted on: 08 August 2000 by Paul Stephenson
NIC and ALL
"do Naim want the forum to continue"
YES, YES, YES.
Posted on: 08 August 2000 by Chris Metcalfe
Is it me or do the lightbulbs for new posts only come on the first time into the forum? Who designed this thing?
Posted on: 08 August 2000 by Martin Payne
Paul,

As I think I've made plain elsewhere I would like to see the forum continue. I would much prefer to see the old software running again, or at least a resolution for several major issues with this forum.

I know of one person who will return here when the forum has improved.

I noticed that the forum has been down a number of times over the last few days - bug fixing, I presume. I've certainly noticed at couple of changes - one certainly an improvement.

cheers, Martin

Posted on: 17 August 2000 by MarkEJ
I've been off the forum since the first week in July, first with pre-holiday work-related headless chicken syndrom, then holiday, then post holiday W-RHCS.

I'd like to say a big thank you to "the other Mark" at Naim for the excellent tour when we delivered our HiCap for service, and another one to Sheila et al for totally transforming the thing. Everything's just about warmed up now, and is sounding pretty wonderful. What an extraordinary difference.

My previous link to the forum had obviously stopped working, so I arrived via the main site about an hour or so ago. The forum didn't know me, so I thought "Oh fine, theyv'e changed the forum software, etc, etc." and reregistered. Then I got in.

Well...

It's all a bit sixties, isn't it? Swinging London, Carnaby Street, Chelsea Drugstore, Union Jack bags and all that. I really miss the three panes – everybody appears to be shouting at each other in this environment, and there's no proper threading. Navigation is horrendous.

Better than no forum at all though!

Best;

Mark