Nice Photos.

Dear Graeme,

You can remove that picture from Winkli's post be deleting the photo on Flickr.

ATB from George

Perhaps Richard D will delete, if you ask him via report the post?

Hope that helps.

ATB from George

Dear Grraeme,

I have beaten you to that one myself!

ATB from George

Done.

Graeme,

i'm happy enough to believe you have the best of intentions, and imo it really is an excellent photo.

But also think it appropriate to point out the obvious.

Debs

Just what is the "big implication"? I just don't get it.

Yeah and that Degas bloke. Lots to answer for too...

Not at all obvious to me. I still don't know what the hell you are talking about.

Dear Winki,

Perhaps the implication is some people might eventually wish what is public would be better if it were still only private.

I would not even post on the internet of childhood photos of myself!

That is the implication, and I would not like it if someone else chose to post such pictures.

I am glad enough to have these picture in "private" family albums, and not on the internet for the pleasure of strangers. 

It does amaze me how much some people want to share of their private lives including photos.

It is a matter of persona opinion about what is in good taste in the modern world. 

ATB from George

Bad acne, eh?

No, in fact they are rather lovely images, mostly taken by my grandmother. 

ATTB from George

Yeah, some people even share anecdotes about their childhood, growing up and family relationships on internet forums. Who knows why anyone would want to do that!

Yes, the pervasiveness of this sort of paranoia is incredibly depressing, isn't it.

Dear Winki,

Yes, and sometimes they live to regret it.

My advice would be, "Just don't do it in the first place!"

People have even been sacked from work over ill-advised reporting of their own lives, which at the time they no doubt thought would be entirely harmless. If that can happen, then far worse could happen that was entirely not predicted ...

You can call it paranoia, and I'd call it better safe than sorry. Sad that it may be seen sensible to be cautious, but the world is in some ways less kind than of old. 

ATB from George

Blimey, more kids. He doesn't learn does he..?

It does seem sad to me that the PC brigade have been able to run amock and distort societies norms across a broad spectrum of behaviours driven by fear of a few warped paedophiles who, in my opinion, should be ignored.  Only my opinion.  And the law is the law.  Hopefully it will correct itself in due course.

Peter

Should point out it's not mine of course...

Dear Peter,

I am certainly not a PC person, but in public, I try to behave with a big margin of caution. 

I think we need to be very careful about the undesirables in society, and not feed their peculiarities with free images that are essentially private in that most impersonal of media - the internet.

It is a question of respect for the people in the photos rather than our own sensibilities as takers or publishers of the images themselves ...

Just my opinion though.

ATB from George

 There is no law saying that parental consent is required, certainly not in Britain. Schools, clubs and others may have 'rules' regarding the use of cameras on their premises but they are not laws. 

If used for commercial gain yes there MAY be a need to get consent. Again some libraries etc do require signed consent to avoid potential issues but again no law.

The bogus information regarding photography reaches almost hysterical levels. Just because certain misguided individuals have used cameras for child pornography does not mean that use of a camera requires a licence.  

GraemeH,

from this law-enforcement officer's perspective I could see absolutely nothing wrong with your photograph.  Please do not allow others to persuade you otherwise. 

Regards

Andy

Yes, thanks Andy.

"I'm sorry young lady. Your nomination for Head of Paediatric Neurosurgery here at St Vincent's Children's Hospital has been denied as evidence has sufaced via an internet search that you once did ballet. I wish the outcome could have been different, I really do, but you know, we have to think of the children."

Because you can imagine something bad happening, or because you've heard a few anecdotes, doesn't mean it is a risk.

No, of course you are right.

There are no risks, I am an old paranoid fool! NOT.

As for photographs, I would never take a photo that was captured in a private setting and then publish it on the internet without asking first. I have published one photograph here on the Naim forum taken while a guest at someone else's house, which only contained an image of Quad ESLs. Amazingly this picture later came up in a google search of images for ESLs. Once an image is published on the net, we loose control of it entirely, even if in this case there was absolutely no harm in it. I am not happy that any essentially private image of mine should ever fall outside my own control to show it only to people known to me and trusted. I might show my family albums to my family and a few good friends, but never to even my work colleagues!

As for photos of children [the only ones I have are of my brother, my cousins, some school friends, and myself], I would not even consider asking permission, as I would NEVER publish any of these photos, however nice they might be, on the internet. 

I think I am right.

I think we all must decide for ourselves what we think is a correct way to behave on this. But my view is that everyone owes it to those in the photos to veer towards extreme caution in loosing control of who shall view them.

ATB from George

Say you did publish those photos. What are the consequences of which you are afraid?