Nice Photos.

Our eldest son at Tae Kwon Do. Call the police....

On their way to their first Kiss concert.

Declan longboarding on the street outside our house.

Hooray for winky. Hooray for common sense.  This thread certainly has some hysterical posters.  

I wonder if PETA will sue me for my avitar. I should change it to a picture of grass, so as not to offend Gage

Just because I have not the imagination to know what might go wrong does not make it right for me to publish them. I have no idea what consequences for them might result!

I am merely being careful for them. If you disagree  then publish away. But I'll remember never to send you any of my family pictures for all that.

Discretion is the better part of valour.

ATB from George

Dear Greg,

I believe that your post, quoted, is far closer to hysterical than anything I have posted. Exaggerated and well out of balance. Even I have posted several pictures of my dogs over the years. 

What possible harm could come to a dog as the result of someone posting a picture of it?

ATB from George

But why? What is the risk that you are mitigating? It is a serious question. What possible harm could befall your family or friends as a result of photographs of them being posted on the internet? I am completely and utterly baffled. They're just photographs.

Here they are in Mexico.

Because I cannot say what the reasons are does not mean risks do not exist. I was given this advice by a now long deceased member of my family. This person was very much admired by me, and I believe, had the best of reasons for counselling caution. 

As I noted above,"Discretion is the better part of valour."

At this point, I am going to bow out of this exchange ...

ATB from George

This is clearly a case of parental neglect, or worse. How can you possibly subject children to Kiss? 

As someone who occasionally sells photos or takes them on commission, I would like to jump in here.

Back on March 12th, World Maths Day, a charity I do some work for asked Johnny "Think of a Number" Ball to visit some schools and engage kids with mathematics. Here he is at a school in Battersea. I am posting this picture (which I took) here to demonstrate just how wrong Debs' assertion is.

I have not had permission from any of the parents of any of these children to do this because there is no legal requirement to do so. There were a number of photographers at this particular event and their pictures were all over the local press and the internet. There is no danger of any of us being prosecuted for our actions.

If I were selling this shot to a photo agency like Getty or Alamy, it is more than likely they would require model release forms from every parent (or at the  very least, the school's headmaster) but that's because it's a commercial transaction, and also the agency covering their arse.

+1 Well said Andy.

As a parent and keen amateur photographer myself with a daughter of 9 who frequently does drama/dance both at school and in local clubs I'm pleased to say that the school take a fairly enlightened view of parents shooting video and stills (without flash) at school performances.  I do however get irritated when Stagecoach and the local theatre group ban all photography for parents at their shows ostensibly for reasons of child protection but in reality so they can flog a £30 DVD or picture set taken by their assigned photographer.  The problem is that I don't want 2 hours of other people's children dancing or whatever, I'm only interested in the 5 minutes of performance my Daughter did.  

I also believe that the school's attitude is the more enlightened - we are parents just keen to record significant moments of our child's journey.  I don't believe societies should create rules which impact the vast majority of normal parents in order to protect our kids from the one in a thousand who might have ulterior motives for taking photographs.

It's nice to see that on this thread other schools take a similarly enlightened approach (Johnny Ball).  Contrary to what the press would have us believe I don't believe there are perverts on every corner, just a tiny proportion of nut jobs who will get their kicks one way or another whatever we do.

Jonathan

Repost it G - I never saw it and would like to. Don't allow yourself to be bullied by self-styled moral guardians!

 Audience reaction:

If it's the ballet one G, I cannot see anything wrong with it - rather charming, in fact.

On a related but slightly OT note, back in the mid noughties I spent a couple of years working on women's magazines at Bauer. One of the interesting things I found out is that mothers are incredibly proud of their children, and that they love to show them off at any opportunity.

On one particular mag one of the most popular pages was a "match the child with the mum" photo quiz - if you matched all six correctly you got a prize. We always had far more people sending in pics of themselves and their kid(s) than we actually had entries to the competition!

Yeah, true. 

It's far worse than that, HH. Not only is Winky subjecting his poor kids to the music of Kiss, he is making them dress like Kiss as well. And all that greasepaint will block their pores and give them terrible acne in later life. I think the authorities should be told.

Got himself a Fender tho'...

Paul & Ace.......KISS must be more like 'Pucker' by now!

Can they still balance in those shoes?

G

Oh by the way, terrorists have, on many occasions, used car bombs. Should everybody stop buying cars?  Suicide bombers? Stop having children. Stalkers? Stop allowing celebrity photographs and articles.

And the law still requires that we, the Police (Prosecution) prove an offence. Graeme wouldn't have to prove he was innocent. 

Anyway, for once I'll follow George's lead and bow out. Cannot believe I just said that.

Andy

I have not said that leotards are taboo nor claimed the photo to be porn.

Your should learn to read correctly and stop misconstruing.

Should a photo of [ other peoples daughters ] be shown on a forum/www without the parents knowing this, and of the implications?

Do those other parents have any say at all in privacy?

It’s quite possible many of those parents took their daughters to the ballet class feeling safe, without realising photographic images will later be appearing all over the internet - whether they like it or not!

Debs

Debs, I often agree with your posts but you are way out of line here. Best get your coat and back out through the door mumbling some apologies. 

And just what are the "implications"? I just don't know what your issue is.

I certainly have sympathies with this view...but it's the 'tale wagging the dog' syndrome for me.

And I am sure that some of the parents could/would be annoyed if they new, but that again is an outcome of the current 'fear' pervasive in society, so I tend to say balls to it, especially as pointed out, the law is on the sensible side.

Jason.

ps. It should also be noted, as Debs has already made a distinction, the female view tends tobe more  sensitive to these matters as my wife would more likely steer towards Debs view, albeit reluctantly.

Jason.

Indeed, 'Happy Snappers' we are.

One of the charms (and I suspect the reasons for the longevity) of this thread (started by George) is there is very little idealogical opinion scattered about in it. It's rare to see anyone put out their personal agendas in it and I, for one, find it a better place to visit as a result.

The very, very occasional and minor falling outs are quickly dispatched and someone posts a new nice photo. We move on.

'Blokes' it may be who post here. Maybe some 'non-blokes' should also post, so that they may share and we may appreciate their talents and creativity, rather than just their opinions.