Anyone know anything about DNM Resolution speaker cable?

Be careful, you could damage the amp if the cable characteristics are not right.

Yes. That's why I'm asking for advice here.

15pF/m, A5 is 16 so you should be OK.

direction is so that the D of DNM printed on the cable is nearest the source.

It’s all on the DNM website but takes a little digging.

Thanks very much. Very helpful. I've been ferreting around on the DNM website since I posted and am finding out most of what I need.

Huge uses them on a 272/300 and seems to like them. Maybe he'll be along later.

Dnm and Heybrook heywire and perhaps others are made by a single solid core 

In some combinations it has fine mids but rolled off top and buttom

I tried dnm a couple of years back with my then Nap 250 and ultimately I didn't like it

Fwiw the cable was created by Denis Morecroft and intended offcourse to DNM amplication, I know Rehdeko (long discontinued) speakers used it successfully, also many valve amp users get good results by this cable which is WAF friendly flat nearly as Tellurium Q Black.

Graeme,  have a look at the FAQ thread on speaker cables that should be used with Naim amplifiers. You need to be careful with a traditional Naim amp like the NAP250DR.  The cable needs to provide adequate inductance and low capacitance for stability.  That is why Naim can only recommend Naim speaker cable for this amplifier of the recommended minimum and maximum lengths per channel.

The Speaker plugs that are provided with the amplifier are an ideal metal to metal match for the sockets aboard the amp.  They also prevent torsional stress on the socket which can sometimes give a less than ideal contact.  On amps with PCB mounted sockets (not your NAP250DR), the Naim speaker connectors prevent putting too much stress on the socket solder connection.

https://forums.naimaudio.com/to...68#27613034991630468 

15pF/m, 1.03μH/m, 13mΩ/m 

compared to

16, 1, ,9 respectively

I’ve tried it, it’s very soft in the bass and the timing of the music is off.

dont really know why people keep trying to re invent the wheel when NAC A5 does the job so well.

defecltor sheilds are at maximum.

If it's any help to you. Here's an article that compares the differences in sound between solid core cables and stranded.

Solid Core Copper vs. Stranded Copper Audio Cables | hifiqc

hi fi fo fum posted:

I’ve tried it, it’s very soft in the bass and the timing of the music is off.

dont really know why people keep trying to re invent the wheel when NAC A5 does the job so well.

defecltor sheilds are at maximum.

It's because I share the room with my family. 2 x 7.5m of NAC A5 snaking across the floor or around the skirting boards add nothing to the aesthetic of the room. It has to be a compromise. I used to have NAC A5 in our old house where it was easy to hide it.

Richard Dane posted:

The Speaker plugs that are provided with the amplifier are an ideal metal to metal match for the sockets aboard the amp.  They also prevent torsional stress on the socket which can sometimes give a less than ideal contact.  On amps with PCB mounted sockets (not your NAP250DR), the Naim speaker connectors prevent putting too much stress on the socket solder connection.

Thanks Richard. That makes sense. It's always better to know why not rather than just being told "don't"! 

Graeme MacArthur posted:

The cable comes with DNM's own 4mm plugs fitted and I've read the writing on the back of the amp that says "Do not replace supplied loudspeaker plugs with individual 4mm plugs" which is of course exactly what I'd be doing.

I think this is Naim's attempt to comply with safety regulations, although that's not to say you should ignore the other reasons for using Naim plugs, as per Richard's post above. I guess things have moved on to some extent, as Naim now supply Super Lumina cables terminated with 'individual 4mm plugs'.

Yes, it's soft in the deep bass (but my main speakers don't produce anything below mid bass and I use a sub for the bass).  In other ways it's an excellent cable with exceptional midrange fluency and delicacy with excellent resolution and differentiation of instrumental timbres, combined with good timing from the upper bass to HF and an almost complete absence of HF grain.

It certainly wouldn't be my first choice for full range floor standing speakers where the bass limitations (softness and timing issues) will become very apparent, but for smaller speakers with limited bass extension it has substantial advantages over stranded cables like NAC A5.

Electrically it's a perfect match for Naim amps, being very close to the electrical characteristics of NAC A5. 

hi fi fo fum posted:

I’ve tried it, it’s very soft in the bass and the timing of the music is off.

dont really know why people keep trying to re invent the wheel when NAC A5 does the job so well.

defecltor sheilds are at maximum.

Because there isn't one size that fits all.

By the way, I'm not like the Borg, I know resistance isn't futile...  No, it's voltage divided by current!

ChrisSU posted:

Graeme MacArthur posted:

The cable comes with DNM's own 4mm plugs fitted and I've read the writing on the back of the amp that says "Do not replace supplied loudspeaker plugs with individual 4mm plugs" which is of course exactly what I'd be doing.

I think this is Naim's attempt to comply with safety regulations, although that's not to say you should ignore the other reasons for using Naim plugs, as per Richard's post above. I guess things have moved on to some extent, as Naim now supply Super Lumina cables terminated with 'individual 4mm plugs'.

I use Naim plugs at the amp end and lightweight CuBe Z-plugs at the speaker end.

Switching from gold Deltron plugs (soldered on) to CuBe Z-plugs at the speaker end brought noticeable gains in resolution and differentiation of instrumental timbres.

Huge posted:

It certainly wouldn't be my first choice for full range floor standing speakers where the bass limitations (softness and timing issues) will become very apparent, but for smaller speakers with limited bass extension it has substantial advantages over stranded cables like NAC A5.

Thank you, that's valid. The Twenty 26s are full range floor standing speakers. However, that's for my ears to judge. My first concern was whether I could be damaging my amp and people have been very helpful in assuring me that will not be the case.

Richard Dane posted:

Graeme,  have a look at the FAQ thread on speaker cables that should be used with Naim amplifiers. You need to be careful with a traditional Naim amp like the NAP250DR.  The cable needs to provide adequate inductance and low capacitance for stability.  That is why Naim can only recommend Naim speaker cable for this amplifier of the recommended minimum and maximum lengths per channel.

Thanks for pointing me to the FAQs. I was unaware. It seems that the DNM is pretty close electrically to the A5. It will also fit under our carpet!!!. I just need to hear it now.

Graeme MacArthur posted:

Huge posted:

It certainly wouldn't be my first choice for full range floor standing speakers where the bass limitations (softness and timing issues) will become very apparent, but for smaller speakers with limited bass extension it has substantial advantages over stranded cables like NAC A5.

Thank you, that's valid. The Twenty 26s are full range floor standing speakers. However, that's for my ears to judge. My first concern was whether I could be damaging my amp and people have been very helpful in assuring me that will not be the case.

Hopefully I've given you some pointers to look out for in its strengths and weaknesses, to help you more easily make a good judgement.

It's not for everyone, but it may be for you; and you are the only one who can truly decide that.  Enjoy the testing, and good luck.  

We have used the Crimson Electronics speaker cable to good effect in lieu of NACA5 in a UQ2b to Blumenstein speaker based system.   Sounds very good.     I have thought that Crimson and DNM are connected somehow.  

No, there's no link between DNM and Crimson.

I have used DNM cable for about 10 years. I preferred it to NAC5 (heresy I know) and it goes under the carpet.

BN

I've used DNM speaker cable in various forms for getting on for 20 years now, changing to Resolution 3 years ago.  Very transparent compared with my previous cable brand at the time.   I'm no use to you re. the crucial issue of combining with Naim amps though, I liked the cables so much I bought DNM amps a few years later,  which are still going strong with no urge to replace.

I'm currently using some flat, ribbon cable and have been for the last 17 years or so. I have no idea what it is and thought it high time that I compared with the other available cables. My dealer recommended Chord Odyssey, although that is still quite difficult to hide away. A friend recommended Chord Signature and found a suitable length for £1k on eBay, but I'm not prepared to spend that kind of money without hearing it first. It also has a profile that is unmanageable in the listening room. Hence the loaned DNM Resolution which, with any luck, I might get around to hooking up today.