What are you listening to and WHY might anyone be interested? (Vol. XIV)

Posted by: Richard Dane on 31 December 2017

On the eve of a new year, it's time for a new thread. 

Last year's thread can be found here:

https://forums.naimaudio.com/to...sted-vol-xiii?page=, 

Posted on: 10 May 2018 by J.N.
GraemeH posted:
Stevee_S posted:

(1975)

Steely Dan - Katy Lied

Some lovely Dan from an original '85 MCA CD. The Dan always did themselves great justice by recording their material so very well. 

The MCA cd’s of the classic albums are indeed the ones to get. Gorgeous SQ.

G

Agreed. The 4 CD set 'Citizen Steely Dan' remastered by Glen Meadows sounds very good too. It chronologically replicates all tracks on the Dan albums up to 1980, and incorporates a few rarities too.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Citizen_Steely_Dan

John.

Posted on: 10 May 2018 by ted_p

Deep Purple

Stormbringer - CD Rip

Edward

Posted on: 10 May 2018 by ewemon

Posted on: 10 May 2018 by ewemon
J.N. posted:
GraemeH posted:
Stevee_S posted:

(1975)

Steely Dan - Katy Lied

Some lovely Dan from an original '85 MCA CD. The Dan always did themselves great justice by recording their material so very well. 

The MCA cd’s of the classic albums are indeed the ones to get. Gorgeous SQ.

G

Agreed. The 4 CD set 'Citizen Steely Dan' remastered by Glen Meadows sounds very good too. It chronologically replicates all tracks on the Dan albums up to 1980, and incorporates a few rarities too.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Citizen_Steely_Dan

John.

 

John see below re the diffent masterings for the first few Steel Dan albums. I have borrowed this from another forum.
 Can’t Buy A Thrill

Mastering 3 is mostly preferred.
“I have mastering 1, 2 & 3 which should cover everything as the rest are all simply level shifts. 3 is my personal favourite as 1 & 2 both have issues. Mastering 3 appears to be the only unremastered version for this album.”


Mastering 1:
88.4/88.4/88.4/88.4/88.4/88.4/88.3/88.3/88.3/88.4
MCA Remaster 1998 MCD-11886 / Matrix: MCD11886 11886-2 01 + (Made in Germany by Universal M&L)

Mastering 2:
93.2/98.8/94.9/93.4/94.7/98.8/91.9/91.0/90.2/91.2
MCA Citizen boxed set MCAD 410981 / Matrix: MCAD4109811 Y2D22 MFD BY JVC

Mastering 3:
92.1/94.1/89.4/94.3/88.6/91.3/89.6/89.5/98.3/97.0
MCA DMCL 1769 (artwork) MCAD-31192 (disc) / Matrix: MCAD-37040-1T23
MCA 250 448-2 (Made in Germany by Record Service GmbH) / Matrix: MCAD-37040
MCA 250 448-2 FRANCE WE 835 (MCAD 37040) Manufactured in Germany / Matrix: 250 448-2 SRC-01
MCA MCAD-31192 / Matrix: MCAD-37040-A7E
MCA MCAD-37040 DIDX-369 Manufractured in Japan for USA / Matrix: MCAD 37040 M2C11
MCA 20P2 Manufractured in Japan / Matrix: 20P2-2099 1M TO
MCA USA (artwork UK) DMCL 1769 (artwork) MCAD 31192 (disc) MCAD-31192 JVC 1T (matrix)
MCA MCAD-31192 DIDY-369 (artwork) MCAD-37040 DIDY 000369 CRC (disc) / Matrix: DIDX-000369 2
MCA MCD 01769, DMCL 1769 Germany / Matrix: SONOPRESS K-4067/ MCD01769 A DSC4
MCA MCAD-31192 USA (full artwork) / Matrix: 1AMCD31192 02 B

Mastering 4 (level adjusted version of mastering 2):
94.3/100.0/96.0/94.5/95.8/100.0/93.0/92.1/91.3/92.3
MCA USA? MCAD-31192 / Matrix: MCAD31192 A60801Ec mfg by UNI
MCA Canada MCBBD-31192 (listed as ADD???) / Matrix: L387 MCBBD31192 #50517Y23
MCA ? MCAD-31192 / Matrix: MCAD-31992-1-2C 1 5 MFD by JVC

Mastering 5 (level adjusted version of mastering 3):
89.6/91.6/87.0/91.8/86.2/88.9/87.2/87.1/95.7/94.4
MCA MCLD 19017 mastered by Nimbus UK CD / Matrix: DMCL 1769 · 1:6 MASTERED BY NIMBUS
MCA DMCL 1769 (artwork and disc) / Matrix: DMCL 1769 mastered by Nimbus
 
Countdown To Ecstasy

Mastering 3 & 4 is mostly preferred
“Original mid 80s mastering. It can be found on every CD before the early 90s, although level adjusted on the UK Nimbus discs.”


Mastering 1:
88.4/88.4/88.4/88.4/88.4/88.3/88.3/88.3
MCA Remaster 1998 MCD-11887 / Matrix: MCD11887 111 887-2 01 + (Made in Germany by Universal M&L)

Mastering 2:
93.3/92.7/93.3/94.0/94.0/93.4/90.1/94.4
MCA Citizen boxed set MCAD 4-10981 / Matrix: MCAD4109811 Y2D22 MFD BY JVC

Mastering 3:
81.9/79.5/88.1/84.1/92.3/92.3/71.9/84.2
MCA UK DMCL 1654 (artwork) MCAD-37041 DIDX-372 Japan for USA (disc) / Matrix: MCAD-37041-U3E12
MCA West Germany 250-628-2 (artwork) MCAD-37041 (booklet) MCAD-37041 DIDX372 (disc) / Matrix: 250 628-2 EM 2
MCA USA MCAD-31156 / Matrix: MCAD-31156
MCA Germany MCD 01654 DMCL 1654 / Matrix: MCD01654 50169085 01 / MADE IN GERMANY
MCA Germany MCD 01654 DMCL 1654 (alu hub) / Matrix: SONOPRESS I-5625/ MCD01654 B
MCA USA (artwork) DMCL 1654 (artwork) MCAD-31156 (disc) / Matrix: MCAD-37041-A4E23
MCA USA MCAD-31156 (plaid back) / Matrix: MCAD-37041 A 4 E21
MCA USA MCAD-31156 / Matrix: MCAD-31156 1T 22 MFD BY JVC
MCA Japan for USA MCAD-37041/DIDX-372 (full artwork) / Matrix: MCAD 37041

Mastering 4 (most likely same source tape as mastering 3 but not as loud):
79.8/77.4/85.8/81.8/89.9/89.8/70.0/81.8
MCA UK MCLD 19018 (disc & artwork) Distributed by BMG Records (UK) (artwork) / Matrix: A0249 DMCL 1654, MASTERED BY NIMBUS

Mastering 5 (same digital source as mastering 2):
94.4/93.8/94.4/95.1/95.1/94.5/91.2/95.5
MCA MCAD-31156 (plaid back) / Matrix: MCAD-31156-1 1C MFD BY JVC
 
Pretzel Logic

Mastering 3, 4 & 7 are mostly preferred
“This is probably the original 1984 or 1985 mastering, I guess it's the one done by Roger Nichols? The difference in "Rikki" in mastering 3 & 4 might be due to a click removal at 3:46.  Mastering 7 is a level adjusted copy of 4.”


Mastering 1 (intro to "Rikki" included):
89.7/90.3/91.1/100.0/79.6/76.9/92.4/94.7/85.9/89.9/97.3
MCA Remaster 1999 MCD-11917 / Matrix: 00088 111 917-2 03 / 51042997 (Made in Germany by Universal M&L)
MCA USA? MCAD-31165 (plaid back) / Matrix: ?
MCA USA? MCAD-31165 (full artwork) / Matrix: 31165-1 2D

Mastering 2: (intro to "Rikki" missing!, level adjusted copy of mastering 1)
88.6/89.2/90.0/98.8/78.7/76.1/91.4/93.6/84.9/88.9/96.2
MCA Citizen boxed set MCAD 4-10981 / Matrix: MCAD 4109812 Y1D3A MFD BY JVC

Mastering 3 (intro to "Rikki" included):
57.7/90.3/81.6/84.0/56.9/86.7/87.8/99.1/98.5/88.4/85.2
MCA USA MCAD-37042 DIDY-371 (CRC) / Matrix: DIDX 371 31A2
MCA USA MCAD-31165 CRC (full artwork) / Matrix: 1AMCD31165 04 B

Mastering 4 (intro to "Rikki" included, same as mastering 3 except for track 1):
90.6/90.3/81.6/84.0/56.9/86.7/87.8/99.1/98.5/88.4/85.2
MCA Germany MCD 01781 DMCL 1781 (BMG Ariola) / Matrix: MCD01781 50336 173 01, Made In Germany
MCA USA MCAD-31165 Compact Disc/Compact Price - Plaid back / Matrix: MCAD-37042-1T 111
MCA Germany 250 495-2 (DIDX-371 MCAD-37042) / Matrix: 250 495-2 SRC-01
MCA USA MCAD-31165 Compact Disc/Compact Price - Plaid back / Matrix: MCAD-37042-A3 C13
MCA Japan 20P2-2109 Plaid back no UPC (it's on the OBI) / Matrix: 20P2-2109 1M TO
MCA Japan for USA MCAD-37042 DIDX-371 / Matrix: MCAD 37042 S2C11
MCA ???? MCD 01781, DMCL 1781, 811 781-2 / Matrix: MCD01781 50336 173 01 >

Mastering 5 (intro to "Rikki" missing)
94.2/94.1/94.2/94.2/84.7/86.0/94.3/94.3/91.9/94.2/94.3
MCA USA? Remaster 1999 MCAD-11917 / Matrix: Mfg by Universal, MCAD11917 9066613138

Mastering 6 (intro to "Rikki" included, similar to mastering 2 but not identical)
89.7/89.3/90.0/98.8/78.8/76.1/91.4/93.6/84.9/88.9/96.2
MCA Citizen boxed set MCAD 4-10981 / Matrix: MCAD4-10981B 0096016130

Mastering 7 (intro to Rikki?, level adjusted copy of mastering 4)
88.2/88.0/79.4/81.7/55.4/84.4/85.4/96.6/95.9/86.0/82.9

Mastering 8 (clone from mastering 5?):
94.2/98.7/98.7/98.8/88.8/90.1/98.8/98.8/96.3/98.7/98.8
MCA UICY-3023 ???
 
Katy Lied

Mastering 3 & 4 (& 6?) mostly preferred
“Mastered by Steve Hoffman and used for all original mid 80s CDs. This time not the UK Nimbus but a copy from Switzerland is the one that's slightly turned down. A US 31XXX comes (mastering 6) comes pretty close as well.”


Mastering 1:
98.4/98.8/98.8/98.8/98.8/98.8/98.8/98.8/98.8/98.8
MCA Remaster 1999 MCD-11916 / Matrix: MCD-11916 00088 111 916-2 01 (Made in Germany by Universal M&L)

Mastering 2:
84.5/93.9/93.8/85.1/87.5/97.0/96.1/87.5/90.9/94.5
MCA Citizen boxed set MCAD 4-10981 / Matrix: MCAD 4109812 Y1D3A MFD BY JVC

Mastering 3 (Steve Hoffman's version):
100.0/100.0/94.1/100.0/100.0/100.0/79.2/92.3/89.2/100.0
MCA MCD 01800/DMCL 1800 (Distributed by BMG Ariola) Matrix:SONOPRESS I-5630 / MCD01800 A, DS2, IFPI 0764
MCA MCD 01800/DMCL 1800 (Distributed by BMG Ariola) Matrix: SONOPRESS I-5630 / MCD01800 A IFPI L022 DS2
MCA Japan for USA MCAD-37043 DIDX 373 (full artwork) / Matrix: MCAD-37043-U2E14
MCA USA MCAD-31194 (Compact Price/Plaid-back) / Matrix: MCAD-37043-A4E
MCA MCD 01800/DMCL 1800 (Distributed by BMG Ariola) / Matrix: MCD01800 50169153 01 MADE IN GERMANY
MCA USA MCAD-31194 (full artwork) / Matrix: MCAD-37043-A43
MCA Japan for Japan 18P2-2694 / Matrix: 18P2-2694 1M TO
MCA Germany 250 494-2 MCAD-37043 / Matrix: 229250494-2 RSA

Mastering 4 (Steve Hoffman's master, turned down a bit??):
97.7/97.7/92.0/97.7/97.7/97.7/77.4/90.2/87.2/97.7
MCA Switzerland 250 494-2 MCAD-37043 / Matrix: W 250494-2 1124 477 1 *

Mastering 5 (same source tape as mastering 2):
85.5/95.0/94.9/86.1/88.5/98.1/96.1/88.5/90.9/94.5
MCA USA MCAD-31194 (Compact Price/Plaid-back) Mfd for BMG (D100406) / Matrix: IFPI L239 D100406 1J11
MCA USA MCAD-31194 (Compact Price/Plaid-back) / Matrix: MCAD-31194-1 1C MFD BY JVC
MCA ?? / Matrix: MCAD-31194-1 1C
MCA MCAD-31194 MFG by UNI / Matrix: MCAD 31194 A50905CG

Mastering 6 (another level adjusted Steve master?):
100/99.9/93.2/100/100/100/78.1/90.9/88.7/99.8
MCA USA MCAD 31194 DIDY-373 / Matrix: DIDX-000373 3

Mastering 7:
93.9/94.3/94.3/94.2/94.3/94.3/94.3/94.2/94.2/94.2
MCA Remaster? MFG BY UNIVERSAL / Matrix: MCAD1191603066713137

Mastering 8 (Steve;s version, turned down?):
93.3/93.3/87.8/93.3/93.3/93.3/73.9/86.1/83.3/93.3
MCA Canada MCAD-31194/MFG By Cinram / Matrix: 880107CC
 
The Royal Scam

Mastering 3 mostly preferred
“Original mid 80s mastering, done by Roger Nichols? All 80s CDs seem to have this mastering.”


Mastering 1:
94.3/94.3/94.3/94.3/94.3/94.3/94.3/94.3/94.3
MCA Remaster 1999 MCD-811708 / Matrix: 50117 811 708-2 03 # (Made in Germany by Universal M&L)

Mastering 2:
94.8/93.6/92.4/98.8/96.2/96.2/96.9/93.2/95.7
MCA Citizen boxed set MCAD 4-10981 / Matrix: MCAD 4109813 Y1C1C MFD BY JVC

Mastering 3:
96.4/90.1/96.4/96.4/96.4/93.0/93.0/96.4/96.4
MCA USA MCAD-31193 (listed as ADD on back cover???) / Matrix: MCAD-37044-1T 26
MCA Germany MCD 01708 / DMCL 1708 (BMG Ariola) / Matrix: MCD 01708 50169 141 02, Made In Germany by MMDC
MCA USA MCAD-31193 (listed as ADD on back cover but AAD on disc???) / Matrix: MCAD-37044-1T 14
MCA Germany MCD 01708 DMCL 1708 (alu hub) / Matrix: SONOPRESS I-5626/ MCD01708 B
MCA Germany 250 505-2 (MCAD 37044) / Matrix: 250 505-2 SRC-02
MCA Japan 20P2-2115 / Matrix: 20P2-2115 1M TO
MCA Germany 811 708-2 MCD 01708 DMCL 1708 / Matrix: MCD01708 811 708-2

Mastering 4 (same as mastering 2, expect track 4):
94.8/93.6/92.4/100.0/96.2/96.2/96.9/93.2/95.7
MCA USA MCAD-31193 / Matrix: MCAD-31193-1 1D 1S MFD BY JVC

Mastering 5 (level adjusted copy of mastering 3, except for track 1)
96.4/88.0/94.2/94.2/94.2/90.9/90.8/94.2/94.2
MCA Canada MCAD-31193 (made by Cinram) / Matrix: MCAD-31193
 
Posted on: 10 May 2018 by ewemon

IMHO their best album 38 Special

Posted on: 10 May 2018 by ewemon

Posted on: 10 May 2018 by ewemon

If you hadn't already guessed I had a bit of a Southern States Rock day today. 

Posted on: 10 May 2018 by Stevee_S

(1980 | 2007)

Roxy Music - Flesh And Blood

More great music by RM another of those well recorded albums sounding particularly fine in hi-res. 

 

Posted on: 10 May 2018 by ewemon

Contains the majestic Southern Rock anthem 24 Hours at a Time

Posted on: 10 May 2018 by Bert Schurink
Bert Schurink posted:

Have been a fan of the trio longer now, unfortunately never seen them live. The collaboration with Andy Sheppard works...

 

Just saw a review for the album....

 

Espen Eriksen Trio with Andy Sheppard – Perfectly Unhappy
(Rune Grammofon RCD 2199. CD review by Peter Bacon)

The sound of surprise – that’s what jazz is supposed to give us. But what happens when everyone is constantly surprising us with a new rhythm change, the new use of a scale, a new mash-up of styles. Is there not a point when the previously unsurprising becomes, once more, the unexpected.

There are melodies on this album of original compositions by Norwegian pianist Espen Eriksen which you can sing along to on first hearing, because you know where they are going, how they will resolve. And it’s that ability to predict which becomes a new surprise. These are melodies with the rock-solidity of folk tunes.

The trio – Lars Tormod Jenset is on double bass, Andreas Bye on drums and they have been with Eriksen since 2007 – does a lot with the obvious, and their guest UK saxophonist buys in fully to that melodic and harmonic and rhythmic logic.

The opener, Above The Horizon, has a distinctive folk music feel, and Andy Sheppard brings a gently Celtic skirl to his phrasing. The title track has him blowing so gently that we get a breathy gust from the serpentine tube of the tenor with little actual reed note. Suburban Folk Song has Bye using his hands, I think, on the drums for a gently motoring bass-and-drums groove, and again Sheppard is in lilting mood. Sheppard's and Erksen's interacting lines on Naked Trees are simply lovely.

The trio take a lot of their inspiration – it sounds to these ears anyway – from the likes of fellow travellers like Tord Gustavsen and from e.s.t. Eriksen uses some subtle electronics to sometimes double his piano lines with a muted marimba echo, but in the main the acoustic sound is sufficient.

As a unit of four this band is completely “in the zone” throughout the eight tracks that make up this delightful, slightly melancholy but ultimately thoroughly contented album. The album title fits a treat.

I suppose the remaining surprise is that such a thoroughly un-avant-garde album is on the usually adventurous Rune Grammofon label. Or maybe this is the new “out there”.

Posted on: 10 May 2018 by Bert Schurink

Also heard another album of this guy, very enjoyable for multiple hours now

 

Posted on: 10 May 2018 by stuart.ashen

The Gates of Delerium from Yesshows. The interplay between Moraz and Howe is astounding. Alan White does an amazing job to propel the music along and Chris Squire is rather understated to give room for everyone else. My vinyl copy has seen better days but absolutely amazing.

Stu.

Posted on: 10 May 2018 by ALANP

John Mayer - Paradise Valley

Posted on: 10 May 2018 by ewemon

Posted on: 10 May 2018 by MDS

I think this has now edged ahead as my favourite Eddi Reader album.

Posted on: 10 May 2018 by Tabby cat

Cheers James - You have inspired me get it off the rack - sounding fabulous  ( when does it not    ) Playing on Vinyl on Island Records 1978........Technics SL 1210 digging deep in those bass lines   

http://louderthanwar.com/wp-content/uploads/handsworth-revolution.jpg

Posted on: 10 May 2018 by ALANP

Frank Sinatra - Sinatra and Swingin' Brass

Posted on: 10 May 2018 by nigelb

The Crusaders - Images

Being on the funkier side of The Crusaders Jazz-funk period, this has always been one of my favourites and probably one of their most underrated (criticised) albums. Anyway, what do I know.

Cosmic Reign is just a belter of a track off this fine album from when these gentlemen were at the peak of their powers.

I should also add that the recording and production on this one is superb, better than the usual 'modern' standard we all suffer these days.

Posted on: 10 May 2018 by Stevee_S

(1974)

One of my favourite Zappa albums coming out here for a walk around the house.

Posted on: 10 May 2018 by Christopher_M

Donald Fagen - Morph The Cat

Unashamed crowdpleaser :-)

Posted on: 10 May 2018 by Bert Schurink

Big part of the day listened to him, great...

 

Posted on: 10 May 2018 by Bert Schurink

Posted on: 10 May 2018 by james n

A favourite from my teenage years and still sounding marvellous today. 

Roxy Music - Avalon

Posted on: 10 May 2018 by sjbabbey

First listen to this very enjoyable debut album from 1986.

Posted on: 10 May 2018 by apye!

 

First play, on vinyl...