How long until we see high end HDX?
Posted by: Merto on 27 September 2008
The consensus seems to be that the current HDX is at or around the level of a CDX2. When do you think we might see a 555 competitor? Is it even possible or will the technology mean that the voicing will inevitably move in a different direction?
Also, how likely is it that when (if) such a machine is released, we will be able to continue to connect it to existing power supplies such as XPS2 or 555PS?
I would not consider another CDP purchase now but am not ready to move to an HDX until it is at least on a par with my CDS3. I am considering adding a 555PS to my CDP but would be more convinced if I knew it would be compatible with a future HDX type player.
All supposition and guesswork I know but I would be interested in opinions?
Also, how likely is it that when (if) such a machine is released, we will be able to continue to connect it to existing power supplies such as XPS2 or 555PS?
I would not consider another CDP purchase now but am not ready to move to an HDX until it is at least on a par with my CDS3. I am considering adding a 555PS to my CDP but would be more convinced if I knew it would be compatible with a future HDX type player.
All supposition and guesswork I know but I would be interested in opinions?
quote:second hand value on Naim CD players going to drop a lot
I'll be on the look out for a CD555 then - I'd love one of those and I have 1500 CDs to play on it
Hope to hear the HDX next week - I hope it is as good as you all say it is
Then when Solid Stage Storage version comes out I may just go for it.
ATB Rotf
quote:Originally posted by pylod:
if jan means the bare HDX sounds like a cds3/555...so where will the HDS be ?...around the cd777 ?
wrong, a bare HDX is BETTER then CDS3/PS55.
quote:I doubt if Adam would confirm this
was just a jocke...
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I didn't realise he was a *jock*.
quote:Originally posted by pylod:quote:wrong, a bare HDX is BETTER then CDS3/PS55.
if it is that way i will buy one straight away...adam could you confirm jan´ experience ?
sadly, as i already mentioned , we here in norway will not be able to listen to one so far.
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Come and visit Sweden
waaah... can´t find the "feel ashamed smiley" . that one ,with the red cheeks...
kindly regards
the jock
kindly regards
the jock
quote:Originally posted by Merto:
Now give me a few examples of companies that release their latest product the moment they are developed and do not try to maintain products in the pipeline?
Not sure I agree that "maintain products in the pipeline" is the direct opposite to what you wrote earlier.
quote:I would imagine there are already fully developed upgrades but it is fairly standard commercial practice to not to show your cards too soon! It may be prudent to keep something in reserve, to be ready to respond to the competition.
But the SW development companies I worked in released products/upgrade when we considered them being good enough, NOT keeping anything nice to upcoming releases.
If the feature was working = release it!
To NOT release something that is good is to decrease the competiveness isn't it?
That strategy is just stupid!
quote:Originally posted by QTT:I think it would be extremely surprising if it is better than a CDS3/P555 combo.
That exactly was my feeling to!
But trust your ears.
quote:Originally posted by pylod:quote:Come and visit Sweden
hi erik...where in sweden do you live ?...do you own a hdx ?
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If you live in Norway I suggest a trip to Gothenburg where you not only have a combined Linn/Naim dealer, you also have a separate Naim dealer AND the Swedish Naim distributor!
I happen to know them personally as I live in a small town not so far away from Gothenburg.
Let me know using PM if you are interested. I can help you arrange a demo and you are MOST welcome to visit my house and listen to the Klimax DS in a more relaxed environment.
quote:Originally posted by JanÅ:
Not sure I agree that "maintain products in the pipeline" is the direct opposite to what you wrote earlier.
You are correct. I did not take the time to choose the appropriate terminology. Use "have fully developed products awaiting release at a more commercialy advantagous time".
quote:But the SW development companies I worked in released products/upgrade when we considered them being good enough, NOT keeping anything nice to upcoming releases.
If the feature was working = release it!
To NOT release something that is good is to decrease the competiveness isn't it?
That strategy is just stupid!
If you want to maintain a competitive edge, you need a market leading product but at the same time you may want to preserve your own product heirarchy. If you are already 3 steps ahead of the nearest competition, why make it 4 and risk your competitor being able to respond with a single, better product against your product in various iterations? Why reveal to the competition the direction of your new developments until you need to? New products are "revealed" at key trade shows or specific times of year (xmas for example) for that reason. In the context of this discussion, if an enhancement were developed which resulted in the hdx trouncing the sonic performance of the 555, do you think it would be more prudent to release it as a hdx upgrade it or apply it to the next generation of hds (or whatever is in the "pipeline")?
I do not know which software companies you worked with or where they sat in their market place. Perhaps they had to develop and release just to stay in the game, I dont know? However, that does not mean that it is not fairly common practice in many industries to withhold developed products for commercial considerations. I stand by what I said.